God's Sword of Truth - The Word

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By The Holy Spirit's Disciple, Raymond Laginess



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QUESTION:  Revelations

 

Hi!!!

I'm having such a hard time understanding Revelations, I don't know why, but everything is so cloudy to me.  Would you mind answering some questions???

Thanks,

Kelly

 

ANSWER:

  

Hello Kelly:

 

I'm here for you to ask any questions and may the Holy Spirit guide us both in understanding.  Time is truly short, isn't it, all the signs are for us to see.  Send them on!  I may be a little slow in answering, as we have lots of e-mails to answer in these end times, but be patient, and we'll get your answers off to you ASAP.  Thanks for writing and I'm looking forward to your questions.

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

QUESTION:  once saved always saved

 

do all baptists hold to a calvanistic view?

Sandy & Larry

 

ANSWER:

  

Hello Sandy and Larry:

 

Thanks for writing! 

 

No, not all Baptists hold a calvanistic view of Once Saved Always Saved, but most Baptists do.   The other side of the coin is the General Baptists, a group of Baptists who totally reject OSAS, plus, these are those Baptists who have adopted some of each of the others beliefs – it’s a strange thing, and most of it has to do with a person’s “free will” – whether one will abide in Christ and walk with Him or will serve Satan and the world.

 

I always tell everyone that there is no worry about losing your salvation IF you abide in the will of God.  We are all sinners.  Jesus saved us through faith.  If we turn from our faith, from the Lord’s will, we will be worse off than before we began; however, we can repent again and return to Him. 

 

Any more questions, write again – pleased to meet you!

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

QUESTION:  (no subject)

 

Raymond,

 

First of all I am a cradle catholic for 60 years and I do  know my Faith.  I don't understand the "hate" you have for my Church and my heart goes out for your pain but the words you teach about my Church is so wrong.  Didn't Christ tell us to Love one Another? 

 

I had a few cousins who were and are Priest and nuns...One left for personal reasons.  But they had faith and still believed in the Teachings of Christ.  I am sorry your sister went through so much in her life.  If  "lesbians" went after her than I feel sorry for them because they entered a religious life through a lie.  I think we both know it was an escape for many gays to enter the priesthood or a religious life under false pretense and we, the Catholic Church, had to pay for their lies

 

When  Peter went to Rome where he was martyred. His successors as bishop of Rome were recognized as leaders among the bishops, just as Peter was recognized as leader among the apostles. Popes have been visible signs of Jesus' presence and action in the world and signs of unity for the Catholic Church, calling all to be One Flock Under One Shepherd. There have been about 265 popes. Most have been good men and effective leaders. Many have been saints. Some have sinned gravely and have failed miserably in their role as a spiritual leaders. Such failures should not surprise us.  Jesus choose 12 apostles, Judas turned out to be a traitor and Peter denied him 3 times.  Popes can fail but we believe that Christ will not allow the Church to be mislead in essential matters of faith and morals.  


"I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven" (Matt 16:13-19). 

 

Who is your Spiritual Leader of your Church. Do you have one Spiritual Leader or many? Would you trust a surgeon to operate on you if he did not have an education? Would you trust your soul to a man who did not study the Word of God?

Yes, we had problems in the Church as every Church has but Jesus Christi guided His Church through centuries.  I am following the teachings of Christ through the Holy See.  You should know this if you were a brother in a holy order.

 

Nowhere does the Church state the accusations you have testified.  The Church does not depend on ceremonies, cathedral, chapels, pulpits, baptismal fonts, vestments of gold and purple, catechisms or sacraments.  What the Church does teach is very simple:

 

1.  Ceremonies- not sure what you mean by this.  Are you stating the Sacrifice of the Holy Eucharist  is wrong?  If so, then why did Christ have the Last Supper with His Apostles.

 

2. Cathedrals - chapels:  The worship "in sprit and truth" (John 4:24 ) of the New Covenant is not tied exclusively to any place because Christ is the true temple of God.  Through him Christians and the whole Church become temples of the living God by the action of the Holy Spirit.  Nonetheless, the people of God in their earthly condition need places in which the community can gather to  celebrate the Liturgy.

 

3.  Pulpits:  Not sure what you mean by this...many Churches have pulpits, not just the Catholic Church.

 

4.  Baptismal Fonts: Not sure what you mean by this...again many churches have baptismal fonts that are not Catholic.

 

5.  Vestments of gold and purple:  I have been going to many Catholic Churches...never saw a vestment that was made of Gold...as for the purple...do I really need to address this also?  Maybe I will...In the liturgical year the Church celebrates the whole mystery of Christ from his Incarnation to His return in glory..on set dates we have the vestments to fit the liturgy...they did it in the old testament...

 

6.  Catechisms:  From the very beginning the first disciples burned with the desire to proclaim Jesus Christ in order to lead all to faith in him.  Even today from the loving knowledge of Christ there springs up in the believer the desire to evangelize and catechize, that is to reveal in the Person of Christ the entire design of God and to put humanity in communion with him.

 

7.  Sacraments:   I am a good Catholic who is a sinner and needs the sacraments of the Church...When I receive Christ into my heart I feel His Presence and I am in Communion with my Church .I am in awe that Christ would come to me a sinner. He loved me so that He gave His life for me! I receive Him every Sunday and I love Him very much. When I receive the Sacrament of Penance I believe God is forgiving me my sins and the Holy Spirit is upon me. When I was confirmed I felt the Holy Spirit give me strength to practice my faith and to carry out Christ's Teachings. When I received the Sacrament of the Sick, I felt a comfort knowing that Christ was with me during my surgeries. When I married it was not just two people but three...Christ is part of our life.. there is no beginning no end with Jesus in our marriage...and I repeat my Baptismal vows every year to remind me of my frail human being. I am not a perfect Catholic. There are days I wonder why and then I jump back to understanding the gifts God has given me.

 

Yes, Raymond  when I was baptized I was born again.  To baptize means to "immerse" in water.  The one who is baptized is immersed into the death of Christ and rises with him as a "new creature" (Corinthians 5:17).  This sacrament is also called the "bath of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit" (Titus 3:5; and it is called "enlightenment" because the baptized becomes "a son of light" (Ephesians 5:8).  So, yes Raymond I was born again in Christ and through the Holy Spirit and so were you. I was not baptized in a false religion.  According to the teachings of the Catholic Church, Baptism is necessary for salvation for all those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament.  Jesus Christ died for the salvation of all, those can be saved without Baptism who die for the faith (Baptism of Blood...and there is Baptism of Desire).

 

Raymond, I don't know why I found your site.  I was looking for something else and there you were. ( I don't think I could find it now)  It bothered me very much that you would teach hatred for the Catholic Church.  If you cant find yourself to practice the Catholic Faith then find one that will give you comfort in Him.  When I read your words of Faith you have hatred in your heart.  It is very hard to be a Catholic and I sin every day but my faith in God and His Son brings me closer to Him through out the day.

 

Raymond I wish you well.  I pray God will uplift your heart.  I am not accusing you of not knowing God as you are of me.  I do know Christ's teachings and His one commandment was to Love One Another as I have Loved You.  Do you think you could follow His one commandment?  If you do not like the Catholic Religion, than don't practice this faith but don't tell lies....Pray for me Raymond...I need it.

 

"And this is my prayer; that your love may increase ever more and more in knowledge and every kind of perception, to discern what is of value, so that you may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ" (Philippians 1;9-10)

 

Good Luck Raymond and may the Peace of Christ be with you....betty

 

ps...did you ever stop to think that maybe God lead me to your site?  just maybe He wants you to Love and not to Hate...just maybe be a good Christian...there is much hate in this world and by our example we can change it?...just maybe.....

 

ANSWER:

  

Hello Betty:

 

Thanks for writing again! My response to your e-mail is in blue below your questions and/or comments in black.

 

Raymond,

 

First of all I am a cradle catholic for 60 years and I do  know my Faith.  I don't understand the "hate" you have for my Church and my heart goes out for your pain but the words you teach about my Church is so wrong.  Didn't Christ tell us to Love one Another? 

 

Betty, I lived among them and was born, baptized and raised Catholic, even had Mass in our home and was totally deceived.  I have no hate, just love for the lost.  And, I was as lost at that time as any catholic is, not having the knowledge of what salvation truly is, but being duped into believing that my infant baptism and the sacraments saved me.  They do not and can not.  I only found this out because I was searching for truth, got on my knees and asked the Lord to show me and the “Spirit of truth” guided me “into all truth” (John 16:13), opening my eyes to things I had never known in my entire life.  Praise Him for picking me up, teaching me and taking me out of this false religion.  I have no pain in following our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ…there is no pain for those who come to the saving knowledge of Christ.   What I teach is not wrong, but is His truth from His Word.   Betty, TRUTH is LOVE!  TRUTH is JESUS CHRIST!  I have both in my heart.

 

I had a few cousins who were and are Priest and nuns...One left for personal reasons.  But they had faith and still believed in the Teachings of Christ.  I am sorry your sister went through so much in her life.  If  "lesbians" went after her than I feel sorry for them because they entered a religious life through a lie.  I think we both know it was an escape for many gays to enter the priesthood or a religious life under false pretense and we, the Catholic Church, had to pay for their lies.

 

You seem to think that being in a convent or seminary (religious life) makes one holy.  Those in convents and seminaries do not have saving faith, but rather a catholic faith or religious faith.  Why is it that there are so many gays and lesbians in these religious structures, do you know?  Are you even aware of Satan and his goals?  The catholic church doesn’t pay for the gay person’s lies, Jesus Christ paid for their lies at the cross, but they will not repent of their sins, nor do these know Christ.   How well do you know my friend and Saviour Jesus Christ?  How well do you know the Word?  Do you study the Word to show yourself approved?  I’m blessed of the Lord to teach HIS word.  I know HIM and He knows me.  I am united in Christ, one in Him (Galatians 3:28). 

 

When  Peter went to Rome where he was martyred. His successors as bishop of Rome were recognized as leaders among the bishops, just as Peter was recognized as leader among the apostles. Popes have been visible signs of Jesus' presence and action in the world and signs of unity for the Catholic Church, calling all to be One  Flock Under One Shepherd. There have been about 265 popes. Most have been good men and effective leaders. Many have been saints. Some have sinned gravely and have failed miserably in their role as a spiritual leaders. Such failures should not surprise us.  Jesus choose 12 apostles, Judas turned out to be a traitor and Peter denied him 3 times.  Popes can fail but we believe that Christ will not allow the Church to be mislead in essential matters of faith and morals.   "I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven" (Matt 16:13-19). 

 

Betty, first of all, even Clement ,whom the RCC declares the 3rd Bishop of Rome, remarked in his works that there was never 1st century evidence that Peter ever was in Rome.  What you are repeating are the false teachings of the RCC and this is error, not biblical at all.  Why is it they teach that the Pope is a visible sign of Jesus’ presence, and why can’t they find that passage in the New Testament that specifically teaches the papacy was to take over and act in Jesus’ place?  Where is the evidence that Peter was ever a Pope, the leader of the other apostles – because he was listed first?  Please!  Peter was a Jew, married, the husband of one wife, a bishop, whom Jesus sent to be the apostle of the circumcision (to the Jews) (Galatians 2:7-8).  Why do you assume he was the 1st Pope?  Even the men whom you refer to as Peter’s successors as bishop of Rome did not all agree with your statement.  These men have explained in their own writings that they viewed all Christians (Origen) or all bishops (Cyprian, Augustine) as the successors of Peter.  They did not view the bishops of Rome as Peter’s only successors, nor did they identify the Roman bishops relationship with Peter as being one of inherited universal jurisdiction.  It’s very misleading to quote Matthew 16 (that Peter is the rock) without mentioning that these men did not necessarily agree and certainly they disagreed with other parts of the catholic interpretation.  Yes, they saw Peter as a rock, but they didn’t see Matthew 16:18 as a reference to a papacy.

 

All popes fail and have failed because they are sinners.  What about Pope Joan, a woman who gave birth to a baby and the catholics killed her and the baby in Rome? Was she a ruler over faith and morals?   I would pray your eyes be opened to the truth of these things and be not deceived. 

 

The people in this church have been misled over all these years.  The truth is that Roman Catholicism has repeatedly erred in its doctrinal teachings including faith and morals.  In your using Matthew 16, quoting it to mean the Roman CC and the papacy is truly in error.

 

Who is your Spiritual Leader of your Church. Do you have one Spiritual Leader or many?

 

There is only ONE SPIRITUAL LEADER over me and all others who believe that the Word of God is truth.  We have no pope, no priest, no catechisms and no traditions to live by.  We have the living Word JESUS CHRIST to live by.  I go by the Scriptures, and the Word says is quite clear on who the Head of the Church is:  “And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church (Ephes. 1:22); “But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: (Ephes. 4;15); “ For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the Saviour of the body.” (Ephes. 5:23); And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.” (Col. 1:18); and “And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.” (Col. 2:19).

 

Would you trust a surgeon to operate on you if he did not have an education?

Would you trust your soul to a man who did not study the Word of God?

 

Betty, I’m not stupid, blind and deceived – I have the truth, why would I do either of these things.  Plus, I wouldn’t trust my soul to any man, including the pope, even if he studied the Word of God night and day and day and night.  Jesus Christ said in John 14:27 - Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.  I sleep well each night, my soul is in HIS care and He IS THE WORD OF GOD.  No one could ask for anything more!

 

Please, allow me to ask you:  Would you leave the Catholic church if their doctrines were in conflict with the Bible, the Word of God? 

 

My eyes have been opened. I no longer walk in darkness. I no longer hang by the rules of the Roman Catholic church. When I began to study from the King James Bible, I saw how the Roman Catholic church is really an enemy to God's word.  This is why I trust my soul only to Jesus Christ, no man, no religion, no denomination.  I’m free in Jesus Christ ONLY!

 

Betty, the Bible is the word of God – just read it (KJAV) cover to cover – that’s what I believe and live. It is the only way that we know about the Lord Jesus Christ. In the Bible, God testifies that Jesus Christ died for your sins and was buried; and that He rose from the dead on the third day. You must believe and confess this in order to be saved.

 

[I]f thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, THOU SHALT BE SAVED. (Romans 10:9)

 

Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came to this earth to (1) save you from the GUILT and POWER of your sins and (2) RECONCILE you unto God. Through faith in the blood of Jesus you will escape the wrath to come and joyfully look forward to heaven--and you'll live an overcoming life. God will be your Father instead of your enemy--but only through the blood of Jesus.

..the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. (I John 1:7)

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

 

Yes, we had problems in the Church as every Church has but Jesus Christi guided His Church through centuries.  I am following the teachings of Christ through the Holy See.  You should know this if you were a brother in a holy order.

 

The Catholic church was never guided by Jesus Christ, the same goes for all the rest.  Jesus said “Follow me”.  Christ teaches are through the Holy Spirit, NOT through your Holy See and the Holy Spirit isn’t the one who is teaching your pope and if anyone continues following the pope rather than Christ, they have put their own soul into hell.  Jesus is able to discern the genuineness or otherwise of those who say they follow His teachings.  It is written of Him that He knows all men -  for he knew what was in man.” (John 2:25).  But, you say you follow His teachings through the pope – discipleship is not an easy matter and Jesus had made that very clear. 

 

Understanding the true Gospel message is like spiritually moving from death to life and the disciple of Christ is surely in that position.  It remains for such a man or woman to follow Christ, which is why Jesus told his disciple ‘Follow me’. 

 

For those who are alive to the truth of the Gospel, it is a time to disassociate from those who are dead to the truth.  This is the reason why Christ spoke words that may seem at first sight to be harsh.  What would you do and ask?  Would you run to the priest, the pope, the church and say to the Lord, ‘I can’t come and follow you until I check with the Holy See to first see what he has to say’.  These are not the words of one who is putting Christ first!  Jesus has mad the point: we must put him before religion, priest or pope, even family and friends and once we are committed to him, there can be no turning back.  This is why I came out from being a Holy Cross brother – I was seeking truth, but still didn’t find it until 20 years later when I heard His word and believed on him.  (See John 5:24-25).

 

Nowhere does the Church state the accusations you have testified.  The Church does not depend on ceremonies, cathedral, chapels, pulpits, baptismal fonts, vestments of gold and purple, catechisms or sacraments.  What the Church does teach is very simple:

 

1.  Ceremonies- not sure what you mean by this.  Are you stating the Sacrifice of the Holy Eucharist  is wrong?  If so, then why did Christ have the Last Supper with His Apostles.

 

The ceremonies you should know well, the ceremony of a man going into the priesthood, the ceremony of a woman going into a convent, the ceremony of infant baptism, of 1st Communion, Confirmation, etc., don’t think I need go on, as you should know these things as a catholic.

 

Betty, yes, I’m stating that the sacrifice of the eucharist (transubstantiation) is wrong, as well as all the designated sacraments of the RCC, regardless of what your canon laws say.  Jesus said:  “it is finished”, which pronounces the perfect completion of what Jesus Christ has done to make sacrifice for our sins. To receive Jesus' flesh and blood means that you receive the “ONE TIME” sacrifice He made for you as the atonement of your sins meaning that you accept Him ONE TIME and He then lives in you.  This means that you receive Jesus by faith, by believing the gospel message. When you accept that Jesus paid the price for your sins you repent and become reconciled to God.  You can not do it through a bread god, and it has nothing to do with the Last Supper.   “For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.” (Romans 14:17).

 

During the Last Supper with His disciples, Jesus was physically present when He handed out the wine and bread saying, "This is my body . . . my blood . . ." (Lk. 22:17-20).  The Roman Church, through the Mass, teaches its members to literally worship the bread and the wine, and her priests claim to have the power to turn those physical elements into the Son of God and then "immolate" Him on their altar. In this they profess to repeatedly kill the Lord Jesus Christ and sacrifice Him for the remission of sin! The Scriptures make it clear that Jesus' death on the cross was fully sufficient to provide salvation for all who repent and believe the gospel (Heb. 7:27, 9:12, 9:26-28, 10:10; I Pet. 3:18). What Jesus Christ has commanded His followers to do as a "remembrance" of His death and their inheritance of eternal life is through belief in Him – “And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.  And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.  Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.” (Lk. 22:17-20).  The New Testament is representative of our salvation in His shed blood.  The Roman Church has turned into a blasphemous, pagan ritual which misleads millions and keeps them in bondage, separated from Christ and salvation. No true Christian can have any part of it (I Cor. 10:20-22).  No man should ever look to an element itself as if it had life, and no man has the power to change water or a piece of wafer into Christ’s blood and His body to eat – that is pure cannibalism.  In Christ’s own words – “the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” (John 6:63).  IT’S THE WORDS HE SPOKE THAT ARE SPIRIT AND LIFE!

 

The Scriptures make it clear that Jesus' death on the cross was fully sufficient to provide salvation for all who repent and believe the gospel of the New Testament (Heb. 7:27, 9:12, 9:26-28, 10:10; I Pet. 3:18). 

 

 2. Cathedrals - chapels:  The worship "in sprit and truth" (John 4:24) of the New Covenant is not tied exclusively to any place because Christ is the true temple of God.  Through him Christians and the whole Church become temples of the living God by the action of the Holy Spirit.  Nonetheless, the people of God in their earthly condition need places in which the community can gather to celebrate the Liturgy.

 

Betty, a Samaritan woman once asked Jesus where her people should worship God - on Mount Gerizim, as had been their custom, or in Jerusalem as Jesus said - John 4:20. The underlying question was whose religion was correct, stated in terms of the proper place for worship. To this question, Jesus replied “Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.  Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”  John 4:21-24.

 

Thus, Jesus answer to the question in what place God should be worshipped was not a physical place at all (1). Rather, it was a spiritual place or condition - in spirit and in truth. Further, the reason God seeks to be worshipped not in a physical temple but in spirit is that God is spirit. This defines God's substance.  Yes, Spiritual worship is required, BUT - not coming together in so called sacred cathedrals or chapels – regardless of your earthly condition, which is nothing more than “flesh” needing places to gather.  And then you add: “to celebrate the Liturgy” which is even more nonsense – in plain words to “celebrate the Liturgy’ is “celebrating the Mass” celebrate the Eucharist, a long list on “celebrate the Liturgy”.  Catholics love a play on words.  It’s just another reason for Catholics to have their cathedrals and church buildings.

 

3.  Pulpits:  Not sure what you mean by this...many Churches have pulpits, not just the Catholic Church.

 

Pulpits are used in many religions of men, and of course they have them today, but it was never stated in the New Testament.  The danger is that what one hears on Sunday morning is not the Word of God. To be sure, the Scriptures were read (maybe) and there was a sermon (perhaps), but most from the pulpit do not even teach Biblical doctrine, but rather teach their own religious doctrines, traditions, and sacraments and provide nothing more than an emotional experience for the members.  Many times, the church theology and traditions taught results in intellectual pride…and the religious church doctrine becomes a security blanket for its believers, as is such with most denominations.

 

Most of the practices of the RCC religion have absolutely nothing to do with the New Testament.  And, the greatest tragedy is, they take the New Testament and twist it, making the New Testament endorse what they do or say.  Priests and pastors in the pulpit is nothing more than a traditional church practice – handed down for years, but certainly not a practice in the New Testament.

 

A pulpit is only mentioned once in the Bible and was used during Old Testament time in a religious manner for reading from the Book of the law of Moses to the Jewish peoples on the first day of the seventh month during a Jewish feast of Trumpets (Nehemiah 8:2). 

 

4.  Baptismal Fonts: Not sure what you mean by this...again many churches have baptismal fonts that are not Catholic.

 

Betty, baptismal fonts are used in the ceremonial rites of the catholic church – and in many other religions, but the catholic church says baptism is necessary for salvation in the Catechism – “CCC #1277.  Baptism, is birth into the new life in Christ.  In accordance with the Lord’s will, it is necessary for salvation, as is the Church herself, which we enter by baptism. – Catechism of the Catholic Church 1994-1997 United States Catholic Conference, Inc.   This simply is NOT TRUE, but another lie.  If baptism is necessary to salvation, one must wonder why the Lord did not include such a vital requirement in His clear statements concerning salvation.  There is no mention of baptism in John 3:15-18; or John 5:24.  Also, not in Ephesians 2:8-9. 

 

Do you know the story of the woman of Samaria at the well?  In these scriptures we could see that Jesus was clearly not bound by any social or ethnic barrier in his offer of the free gift of “living water” to this woman.    The incident of Jesus meeting the Samaritan woman at the well also illustrates to us Jesus’ purpose in coming into the world , beyond being the Messiah of the Jewish people, He came to be the Saviour of the entire world.  This we know by what He spoke: “…whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.” (John 4:14).  Jesus didn’t tell her to get baptized to be saved, but that HE WAS THE INWARD WELL OF LIVING WATER, THE WATER OF LIFE!  If any of us drink of Him we shall have everlasting life.  May the Holy Spirit give you understanding.

 

5.  Vestments of gold and purple:  I have been going to many Catholic Churches...never saw a vestment that was made of Gold...as for the purple...do I really need to address this also?  Maybe I will...In the liturgical year the Church celebrates the whole mystery of Christ from his Incarnation to His return in glory..on set dates we have the vestments to fit the liturgy...they did it in the old testament...

 

Betty,  just because you didn’t see vestments made of gold…but, on many special occasions, popes, cardinals and bishops wear vestments that are decorated with gold or made of gold cloth (The cloth is actually made of real gold.).  Many have vestments that are studded with jewels.  Even the gloves of high-ranking churchmen are decorated with gold today.  They did the same during the middle ages, but the gloves were studded with jewels.  Pope Pius XII reigned from 1939 to 1958 (a picture on my grandmother’s wall).  He had gloves and shoes that were decorated with gold as he sat in his papal chair.  See some of what he wore. http://lava.nationalgeographic.com/cgi-bin/pod/PhotoOfTheDay.cgi?month=03&day=25&year=02

 

On special occasions, the Pope, cardinals, and bishops wear gold miters and gold vestments. Pope Pius X had a chalice of solid gold and set with numerous diamonds.  Pope John Paul II wore a gold miter and gold vestments made of gold cloth decorated with gold. 

Betty, according to Catholic church -  up to the 4th century white was the only liturgical colour in use.  Other colours were introduced soon afterwards (Benedict XIV (De Sacro Sacrificio Missæ I, VIII, n. 16)” and as far into “the twelfth and sixteen centuries blue and yellow were common but they may not be used without very special authorization (Cong. Of Rites, Sept., 1837”

Betty, I shall address this, as you refer to the vestments of the Old Testament.  Do you actually know who used these vestments and vessels?  It was not the RCC, but rather the Jewish High Priests in the temple and these things were used for the Old Testament sacrificial system according to the Law.  This Law was “finished” at the cross and we are now in the New Testament.  This is why the RCC is so in error.  Betty, seeing that you have the vestments to fit the liturgy of the RCC, do you also have the vestments to fit the sacrificial system that will be brought about by Antichrist during tribulation?   In Revelation 11:1-2 we see Jesus is foretelling that the Old Testament sacrificial system will be reinstated by Antichrist and will serve his needs in the first half of the Tribulation period. Here, we see a reference to the Holy of Holies ("sanctuary of God"), to the burning of incense and to the sacrificial alter.  I’m not sure if this sounds Old Testament Jews or Roman Catholic.

 

6.  Catechisms:  From the very beginning the first disciples burned with the desire to proclaim Jesus Christ in order to lead all to faith in him.  Even today from the loving knowledge of Christ there springs up in the believer the desire to evangelize and catechize, that is to reveal in the Person of Christ the entire design of God and to put humanity in communion with him.

 

Betty, from the very beginning the disciples had no catechisms, they were hearing the Words of Jesus.  Catechisms of religions do not evangelize, nor do they reveal the person of Christ.  No catholic could put humanity in communion with Christ.  Impossible!  Your words are certainly catholic, and not biblical. 

The Bible maintains that it is the ONE AND ONLY FINAL AUTHORITY, while Catholicism teaches that three final authorities exist.

 

The 1994 Catechism of the Catholic Church declares:

"It is clear therefore that, in the supremely wise arrangement of God, sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture, and the Magisterium of the Church are so connected and associated that one of them cannot stand without the others. Working together, each in its own way, under the action of the one Holy Spirit, they all contribute effectively to the salvation of souls." (Pg. 29, #95)

 

IF the Bible, tradition and the teachings of the Catholic church are all, in fact, the Word of God, then the Bible will concur with this teaching. Unfortunately for Catholicism, it does NOT . In fact, quite the contrary is true.  The word of God is the voice of the Spirit. It is grieved when the truth is neglected or disobeyed.  Jesus  boldly declares in the Bible: “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.” (John 17:17).  The Apostle Paul advised the believers how they should react to those who teach doctrines contrary to God’s written Word:  “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.  For they that are such serve not our Lord jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” (Romans 16:17-18).  “As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:9)

Thus, when Catholic doctrine, catechisms, etc.  contradicts God's written Word, those who side against the Holy Scriptures will be "accursed."

 

 7.  Sacraments:   I am a good Catholic who is a sinner and needs the sacraments of the Church...When I receive Christ into my heart I feel His Presence and I am in Communion with my Church .I am in awe that Christ would come to me a sinner. He loved me so that He gave His life for me! I receive Him every Sunday and I love Him very much. When I receive the Sacrament of Penance I believe God is forgiving me my sins and the Holy Spirit is upon me. When I was confirmed I felt the Holy Spirit give me strength to practice my faith and to carry out Christ's Teachings. When I received the Sacrament of the Sick, I felt a comfort knowing that Christ was with me during my surgeries. When I married it was not just two people but three...Christ is part of our life.. there is no beginning no end with Jesus in our marriage...and I repeat my Baptismal vows every year to remind me of my frail human being. I am not a perfect Catholic. There are days I wonder why and then I jump back to understanding the gifts God has given me.

 

Betty, of course you are a sinner, all are sinners and in need of Jesus Christ, but you DO NOT NEED the sacraments in order to obtain Christ’s forgiveness or His gift of grace.  What you are feeling is “emotions”.  I know, I was there, and boy did I feel holy!  Now, I know where those emotions come from, Satan, not Jesus.  By the way, what is a “GOOD” catholic?

 

According to the Scriptures, the gift of salvation is found no where else other than in Jesus Christ, it’s in the gospels.  Every sinner needs Jesus Christ who died for him/her, NOT the sacraments of a church or religion for salvation, regardless of what the Vatican requires is as follows –“ baptism into the “catholic” church, holy communion and the keeping of the 7 sacraments in order to go to heaven.”  This is a lie!  Jesus Christ died for ALL men, not just catholics.  We are ALL sinners deserving of hell-fire, Jesus Christ (the Son of God) paid for our sins with His blood, Jesus DIED, Jesus was BURIED, and Jesus ROSE from the dead for our justification, all we need to do to be saved is to call upon Jesus in faith, believing that He is the Saviour, and asking Him to forgive us of all our sins (Romans 3:10,23;5:8;6:23;10:9-13). 

 

Why do you only receive Christ every Sunday – where is He the rest of the week?  Receiving Christ involves turning to Him from self (repenting of sin) and trusting Him to come into our lives to forgive our sins and to make us what He wants us to be.  We receive Jesus Christ by faith, as an act of the will, not through an act or participation in a sacrament.   If you are in communion with your church, it is therefore impossible for you to be in communion with Jesus Christ who died for your sins – Your church didn’t die for your sins or anyone else’s, nor can your church forgive you your sins.  

 

Betty, you said:  “When I receive the Sacrament of Penance I believe God is forgiving me my sins and the Holy Spirit is upon me.”

 

Hebrews 9:22 says that “without shedding of blood is no remission”.  Therefore, no priest can sit in the confessional and forgive your sin through a catholic sacrament.  “For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit. (I Peter 3:18).  “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace.” (Ephes. 1:7).

 

Confession of sin is admitting our sins to God (NOT a priest).  Confessing our sin to HIM is the way to restore that relationship with the Lord.  “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (I John 1:9).

 

You say that when you were confirmed you felt the Holy Spirit give you strength?  How did He do that? 

You receive the Holy Spirit through faith just as you receive Jesus as Lord (Gal. 3:14), not through a sacrament as the catholic catechism states:  Catholic catechism states:  

 

1316 Confirmation perfects Baptismal grace; it is the sacrament which gives the Holy Spirit in order to root us more deeply in the divine filiation, incorporate us more firmly into Christ, strengthen our bond with the Church, associate us more closely with her mission, and help us bear witness to the Christian faith in words accompanied by deeds.

 

Betty, in the Bible, the Word of God state in Gal. 3:7, 9, 14, 29: "Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Here it is manifest that the Apostle in writing to the Gentiles, expressly includes them in the covenant made with Abraham, and affirms that if they are Christians, then they are "Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

 

How does a Christian receive the blessing of Abraham?  This blessing is to be received by faith.  Again, “…that we might receive the promise of the Spirit THROUGH FAITH.”  This blessing of the Holy Spirit is to be received by faith, irrespective of all works, i.e. confirmation, baptism.  No work whatever, performed without his influences prepares us, in the least degree, to receive him, or at all puts us in more favorable circumstances in respect to our salvation.

 

Betty, none of these sacraments can save your soul to heaven – not one!  It is Jesus Christ only, not your church, religion or a man, no one…JUST JESUS CHRIST. “For by grace are ye saved thorugh faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not or works, lest any man should boast.”  Ephesians 2:8-9.  Certainly NOT the results of the sacraments.

 

Yes, Raymond  when I was baptized I was born again.  To baptize means to "immerse" in water.  The one who is baptized is immersed into the death of Christ and rises with him as a "new creature" (Corinthians 5:17).  This sacrament is also called the "bath of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit" (Titus 3:5; and it is called "enlightenment" because the baptized becomes "a son of light" (Ephesians 5:8).  So, yes Raymond I was born again in Christ and through the Holy Spirit and so were you. I was not baptized in a false religion.  According to the teachings of the Catholic Church, Baptism is necessary for salvation for all those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament.  Jesus Christ died for the salvation of all, those can be saved without Baptism who die for the faith (Baptism of Blood...and there is Baptism of Desire).

 

No Betty, being baptized does not make one “born again”.  You only need to be “born again” by HIS LIVING WATER (not immersed in water) – HE IS THE LIVING WATER, not the water sprinkled on you at baptism and someone else speaking words dictated to them by a religion (RCC).  That is why I know you do not study the Word of God, but only listen to your religion and what it teaches.   Read ALL of TITUS 3:5, IT SAYS: “Not of works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly though Jesus Christ”.

 

In John 3:3-7, Jesus teaches Nicodemus the necessity of regeneration: "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”  Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?”   Jesus answered, “Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.  That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.”

 

Betty, it’s important to note that nowhere in the context of this passage is baptism even mentioned.  Simply reading these verses in context would give one no reason to assume that Jesus was speaking of baptism, unless they were looking to read into the passage a preconceived idea or theology of religion. To automatically read baptism into this verse simply because it mentions “water” is unwarranted.  According to what you say, anyone who isn’t baptized, (because as you say, it: “is necessary for salvation for all those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament”) will not make it to heaven?   This is how I know you do not know what the Scriptures say by the Holy Spirit.  You are repeating what your church teaches,the same as I used to, not what the Lord Jesus teaches.  Then you turn around and say: Jesus Christ died for the salvation of all, those can be saved without Baptism who die for the faith (Baptism of Blood)…”  So, what you are saying is that Jesus died for all, and those ALL can be saved, providing they die or are martyred for the CATHOLIC faith, meaning these shed their own blood.  Wow!  This is absolutely preposterous and certainly not biblical at all. 

 

Do you know what the phrase “born of water and the Spirit” means?  Born of the water and the Spirit describe different aspects of the same spiritual birth, or of what it means to be “born again” or “born from above.” So, when Jesus told Nicodemus that he must “be born of water and the Sprit” He was not referring to literal water (i.e. baptism or the amniotic fluid in the womb), but was referring to the need for spiritual cleansing or renewal. Throughout the New Testament (John 13:10; John 15:3; 1 Corinthians 6:11; Hebrews 10:22), water is often used figuratively of spiritual cleansing or regeneration that is brought forth by the Holy Spirit, through the Word of God, at the moment of salvation (Ephesians 5:26; Titus 3:5).

 

Raymond, I don't know why I found your site.  I was looking for something else and there you were. ( I don't think I could find it now)  It bothered me very much that you would teach hatred for the Catholic Church.  If you cant find yourself to practice the Catholic Faith then find one that will give you comfort in Him.  When I read your words of Faith you have hatred in your heart.  It is very hard to be a Catholic and I sin every day but my faith in God and His Son brings me closer to Him through out the day.

 

Betty, you found my site because the Holy Spirit wanted you to know the truth – you are really searching for the truth of Jesus Christ, not man’s religion.  You sound very knowledgeable of your religion, but wouldn’t it be better to be knowledgeable of Christ from His Word?  I have no hatred for the people who are deceived, I pity them, I love them, but can not save one of them.  Christ did it all for them.  I hate false teachings, and after years of studying in and of the Catholic religion I came to the full realization they were false and were taking me to hell.  I came out of her once I knew the truth, and that was after many years of studying.  Betty, I’m 76 years old and have, after 40 years, come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.  I never resent what I have learned before I found Him – because it just brings me closer to Him and allows me to teach others the false lies in religion. 

 

There is no religion that could give me comfort, ONLY JESUS CHRIST HAS GIVEN ME COMFORT.  I have not hatred in my heart and if you TRULY read my words of Faith in my “Faith Statement” on my site you would know the truth.  But, you do not know the truth.  Yes, it is hard to be a Catholic, but It is SO EASY TO BE A CHRISTIAN. 

 

Raymond I wish you well.  I pray God will uplift your heart.  I am not accusing you of not knowing God as you are of me.  I do know Christ's teachings and His one commandment was to Love One Another as I have Loved You.  Do you think you could follow His one commandment?  If you do not like the Catholic Religion, than don't practice this faith but don't tell lies....Pray for me Raymond...I need it.

 

"And this is my prayer; that your love may increase ever more and more in knowledge and every kind of perception, to discern what is of value, so that you may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ" (Philippians 1;9-10)

 

Good Luck Raymond and may the Peace of Christ be with you....betty

 

Betty, I need no “luck” (no such thing) – I have Jesus Christ and am at peace!  My heart has been uplifted since I came to Christ and received Him as my Saviour.  I also know His teachings and am a teacher by the Holy Spirit.  I teach love as Christ taught love, but I will not allow false doctrine in to corrupt, whether it be catholic doctrine or any other religious doctrine, because it destroys the truth of HIS WORD.  The Word (Jesus Christ) is first and foremost in my heart, and nothing will come before that, nothing, and nothing does.  I do not lie about the Catholic religion.  My King James Bible reads differently than your catholic bible – “And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment; That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;” Philippians 1:9-10)

 

Betty, no matter what I have said or could say to you, you will still hold to your unbelief – just as Jesus said in Mark 7:6-9:”Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.  Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.  For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.  And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.” 

 

ps...did you ever stop to think that maybe God lead me to your site?  just maybe He wants you to Love and not to Hate...just maybe be a good Christian...there is much hate in this world and by our example we can change it?...just maybe....

 

Again, I have no hate, only love, or I would not have taken the time to respond to your e-mail, and believe me, it has taken much time, but I praise the Lord for giving me the time to respond to you. 

 

Betty, Jesus is the DOOR, knock , and it shall be opened unto you.” (Matthew 7:7)

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

QUESTION:  I do not have an “original King James Authorized Version”

 

          Hello, I would like nothing better than a word for word, letter for letter copy of the "Our Father" as written in Matthew 6: 9~12, and was the doxology actually meant to be part of the prayer. (13). I would like to see the characters of the letters U, and V just as they were originally placed in the prayer. Please help me in this matter if you are able. Thank you         Bill G.

 

ANSWER:

  

Hi Bill:

 

Thanks for writing!

 

If you are searching for a good letter for letter copy, here you’ll find word-for-word facsimile of the original 1611 with archaic words you are looking for, with letters U and V just as they were originally written.  Reasonably priced also.

 

http://www.allbibles.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=1565631609

 

In Christ,

Raymond

 

QUESTION:  What Do You Mean?

 

What Do You Mean By ............................

He called them Israel, God’s chosen. They were not a race of people as thought, but were a belief...a faith.

And how do you know that Christ is who he said he was?

 

Bufe

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello Bufe:

 

Thank you for writing!  My answers to your questions will be in blue below.

 

What Do You Mean By ............................

He called them Israel, God’s chosen. They were not a race of people as thought, but were a belief...a faith.

 

Please allow me to explain, but according to the Scripture.  I must first go back to the Old Testament in order to show you that God made the Old Covenant with “Israel” only.

 

The meaning of the word “Israel” was not a race of people, meaning that these (“Israel” under the Old Covenant) were not Jews.  The Israelites are the descendants of Isaac's son Jacob, who was the one that God renamed Israel (Genesis 34:7).  Keep in mind, Jacob was not a Jew. 

 

In Genesis 12:1-3, God calls Abraham, telling him that He will bless him and make a great nation of him. Later God narrows the line even further. Though Abraham had more than one son, only those descended from Isaac would be in that chosen nation (Gen. 17:20-21).  To them (“Israel”) God gave circumcision as an outward sign of their election as a nation, and of God’s covenant with them (Genesis 17:10-14). 

 

Now, let’s go to the New Testament, Paul, the Apostle writes: “Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.  Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham” (Gal. 3:6-7).

 

FAITH in God and His Word was the test.  As Paul said: “But he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.” (Romans 28-29).  Again, Paul makes it clear that the promise of blessing through Abraham was Jesus Christ.  “Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made.  He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.” (Gal. 3:16).  God changed Abram’s name to Abraham, meaning a “father of many nations,” saying: “For a father of many nations have I made thee” (Genesis 17:5).

 

The spiritual election which the saints received had nothing to do with race or nationality; there was 'neither Greek nor Jew' - Romans 10:12, Galatians 3:28, Colossians 3:11. It is BY FAITH THAT WE ARE SAVED.  “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” (Romans 3:29).

 

And how do you know that Christ is who he said he was?

 

We gain our primary knowledge of Jesus from the New Testament, and the Word of God is sound, taught to us by the Holy Spirit and historically accurate.  But it is only through our faith and by the Holy Spirit that we can truly know that Jesus Christ is who He said He was.  I also know Who Jesus was through the life He led, He and His message always produced great changes in the lives of men and of nations.   Also, He was who He said He was by the miracles He worked, the words He spoke, His death and shed blood on the tree, His resurrection of which He foretold and both came about exactly as He had predicted (Luke 18:31-33).

 

Following His resurrection, Jesus appeared at least ten times to those who had known Him and to as many as about 500 people at one time.  Jesus proved that these appearances were not hallucinations: He ate and talked with His disciples and they touched Him (I John 1:1).  Even His ascent to heaven – all point to the fact that he was not merely man, but more than a man. 

 

Jesus said:  “I and my Father are one.” (John 10:30), “he that hath seen me hath seen the Father” (John 14:9, and “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6).  Most importantly, God revealed Himself through Jesus Christ in these last days: “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.  For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee?  And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?  And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.  (Hebrews 1:1-6).

 

Jesus claimed to be God, the writers of the Bible believed Him to be God, His enemies killed Him because He claimed He was God, His resurrection proved He was and is God.  I hope you have an honest heart as you look at this and that you also can have a relationship with Him, Jesus Christ.

 

The Bible speaks of the fact that God created the world, but that Jesus created the world too (Gen. 1:1, John 1:3, Col. 1:16 and Hebrews 1:2).

 

It is anti-Biblical to deny that Christ is who He said He was.  His birth was foretold, through Judah.  As Paul said: “For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Judah…And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.  ” (Hebrews 7:14-15). 

 

If you do not believe, it is in your best interest to explore the truth of Christ’s claims as I did.  Jesus Christ claimed to be God, the Creator of this entire world, the one and only way by which we can enter into heaven.  I believe His claims to be true.  If His claims are true, should we not come to terms with Him and believe in Him as He commands?  I have!  “And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.  He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.” I John 5:11-12).  Very simple isn’t it?

 

 

Bufe E-mail #2

QUESTION:  What does this mean?

 

is the entire old testament law?

 

ANSWER:

 

The first five Old Testament books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy) are known as the books of the Law.  All throughout the history in the Old Testament we see a series of covenants.  In Genesis we see the accounts of the world and God’s relationship with the first man and woman, to whom He gave a law to live by when He commanded Adam, saying: “Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” (Gen. 2:16-17).  Then we see the covenant with Noah (Genesis 9).  Following is a new phase in human history which comes about with the call of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (also called “Israel” as you read above), and Jacob’s children, especially Joseph, and the history of Israel, here we see the Abrahamic covenant with promises of land, offspring and blessing in all of Genesis.  The remaining four books tells the story of Moses and the liberation of the children of Israel from slavery in Egypt, to the renewal of their covenant (the Sinaitic Covenant) with God at Mount Sinai, and then their wanderings in the desert until a new generation would be ready to enter into the land of Canaan, and ends with the death of Moses. Most of the rest of the first five books of the Bible are taken up with expositions of the Sinai covenant.  The other books following shows how the covenant brought prosperity and some show the reverse of prosperity.  Then we see another covenant with David, the king of Jerusalem who has a special relationship with God. 

 

This mutual relationship between God and Israel was fixed by these Covenants (Law) between them.  Hence Paul speaks of the books of Moses as the “Old Covenant” (2 Cor. 3:14).  This term would naturally come to include all of the Jewish writings in exactly the same way that the term Law did (John 10:34 and I Cor. 14:21).  Throughout the entire Old Testament time there were laws – yes - many were broken, some done away with, some new ones added and some old ones reinstated.

 

The Law was instituted because of transgression (sin).  It was given to sinners (I Timothy 1:9-10).  It’s whole purpose was to keep the children of God (Israel) on the path He would have them go, that is, until Christ our righteousness came to redeem all men.  The Lord never intended for the Law to be a way to heaven, “For by grace are ye saved through faith” (Ephes. 2:8) and Romans 3:20 – “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight”. 

 

Now that the true object of their faith has come, Jesus Christ, they are no longer under a schoolmaster – Gal. 3:24.  Our complete focus should only be on Jesus Christ and nothing else.

 

The remaining Old Testament books are divided into historical books, poetry and the prophets which are devoted to assessing the nation’s and the kings’ performance in light of their covenant obligations.

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

Bufe E-mail #3

QUESTION:  What does this mean?

You wrote: Our complete focus should only be on Jesus Christ and nothing else.        Why should our complete focus … only be on Jesus Christ and nothing else?

ANSWER:

 

Our complete focus should be only on Jesus Christ and nothing else BECAUSE Jesus Christ is “the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.” Hebrews 12:2.   The other reasons are as follows:

 

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:16-18).

 

Also, our focus should be on Jesus Christ BECAUSE He is the WORD of God.  He is the very communication of God, and the revelation of God to man.  “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  The same was in the beginning with God.  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.” (John 1:1-3)  Jesus Christ is the Creator of the universe and the only begotten Son of the Father.  “No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.” (John 1:18).

 

You wrote: The meaning of the word “Israel” was not a race of people, meaning that these (“Israel” under the Old Covenant) were not Jews.  The Israelites are the descendants of Isaac's son Jacob, who was the one that God renamed Israel (Genesis 34:7).  Keep in mind, Jacob was not a Jew.    Of what race was Jacob?

ANSWER:

 

To begin with, Jacob was from the lineage of Abraham – we will have to go back to see what Abraham was.  Abraham was not a Jew.   He was called out of the land of Ur of the Chaldees and went into Haran, later into Canaan. In Genesis 14:13, we see that Abram is called Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre and Amorite, known as the land of the Hebrews.  Out of Abraham came the promised son, Isaac, and Isaac also was not Jewish.  Out of Isaac came Jacob (whose name God changed to “Israel” – Gen. 32:28) and his descendants become known as the “Israelites”.  No Israelite had existed before this time.  Even Abraham and Isaac were not Israelites or Jews.  Actually, the history of “Israel” technically begins with Jacob, the son of Isaac and grandson of Abraham. 

 

Out of Jacob came twelve sons.  Out of these 12 sons came the 12 tribes of Israel.  While these lived in Egypt they were known as “Israelites” (Sons of Israel [Jacob]) or Hebrews, having associated them with Hebron, the area where Abraham settled. 

 

It was God Who brought these descendants of Jacob into His own spiritual family by “spiritual adoption”.  These descendants of Jacob became known as “Israelites”.  It was the “Israelites” to whom the adoption pertains.  “Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever.  Amen.  (Romans 9:4-5).

 

You wrote: But it is only through our faith and by the Holy Spirit that we can truly know that Jesus Christ is who He said He was.  What is faith and what is it based on?

 

ANSWER:

 

FAITH IS:  TRUTH!  FAITH IS BASED ON TRUTH.  The truth is Jesus Christ, the Word and the Word is for our knowledge of the truth – “…Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” (Romans 10:17).   The Word says: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)

 

The Biblical concept of “faith” is trust in God, believing in His Word, and in God’s will.

 

The fact of the matter is that it only takes faith the size of a grain of a mustard seed to please God, and to move mountains (Matthew 17:20; Luke 17:6). 

 

One’s faith toward God should mimic that of Jesus who openly confessed “I can of mine own self do nothing: …because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” (John 5:30).  Everyone has been given a measure of faith.

 

Also, “Without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.” (Hebrews 11:6).

 

In John 14:1, 6 – “Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me…Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.  No one, angel, prophet or any man could speak such words; only Jesus Christ can be the object of saving faith.  As He said He was the way, the truth, and the life – He declares that He is the foundation of all truth all life.  He is God, who is absolute truth personified.

 

You wrote: We gain our primary knowledge of Jesus from the New Testament, and then His birth was foretold, through Judah.     Who is Judah is he in the New Testament?

ANSWER:

 

No, Judah is not in the New Testament, He was born during Old Testament time, but Jesus came through that lineage.  Judah was one of Jacob’s twelve sons.  Judah was a Shemite, a Hebrew and an Israelite.  The children of Judah were known as the first Jews.  The descendants of the other eleven of Jacob’s sons were not Jews, but were themselves named accordingly, i.e. Levites came from Levi, Benjamites came from Benjamin, etc.  Eventually, the term Jew came to be applied to all Hebrews, Israelites, and natural seed of Abraham, throughout the world – distinguishing them from the Gentile peoples.

 

 As Paul stated in Galatians 3:28 – “There is neither Jew nor Greek, thee is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.  And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

 

In Jesus Christ, Raymond

 

QUESTION:  Thank you

 

Below I listed some websites that I find disturbing.

I find myself so angry at these baptist bloggers and I did not understand why. After reading your article now I do understand why. My sprirt is discerning that something is not on the mark with these people.  I must learn to forgive them for being misguided and myself for being so angry with them.  They are very sophisticated and are working diligently to bring about a legalistic society. 

 

Is there any support groups or christian groups in the New York area who are called to expose this doctrine?  Please advise.

 

www.biblicalwomenhoodonline.com

www.scottbrownonline.com 

www.visionforumministries.com  

www.focusonthefamily.org

www.buriedtreasurebooks.com/weblog/

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello Georgia:

 

Thank you for writing!  Your spirit of discernment is correct – but it is so with all of men’s religions today, not just one.  For today there are over 200,000 religions and denominations with each demanding obedience to their own doctrines, beliefs and hierarchal structure.  But, when we walk in the Spirit, it is as you said: “My spirit is discerning that something is not on the mark…”, and then we are able to discern all men and all spirits to see “what spirit they are of” and then we shall know all these false teachers, false shepherds, etc. who are leading the sheep astray each and every day.

 

Forgiveness is the ONLY way for ALL of us, as the Word says if we do not forgive, neither will the Father forgive us our trespasses. (Mark 11:26)  Be angry with Satan, he is the deceiver.   Satan works hard to stir up turmoil, and tries to keep us from forgiving and loving each other.  He is the enemy of our souls and he is not going to go away, that is until Jesus Christ returns and casts that old devil into the lake of fire for ever and ever (Rev. 20:10), and I say this particular scripture out loud to Satan every time I get mad.  Maybe you could use the same scripture on him when he attacks you with anger, it’s a great one for venting our anger at him who comes to steal all those we love.  I know there are many religious theologians out there teaching that there is no devil, no hell, and no heaven, and all the “sheep” are accepting their creeds because it has been dictated to them by their much loved pastor or leader.  And, these men are the ones who come together, as you said: “working diligently to bring about a legalistic society.”  How true!  I will peruse the sites you gave me, although I know personally about Dr. James Dobson and the focus on the family site and don’t need to know anymore about that man. 

 

As far as Christian groups in New York that expose the works or doctrines of these men?   I wouldn’t know of any – but I say to you, keep searching and maybe you’ll find some information that you can later share with me and my readers.  Thank you again for writing.  Blessings in His Name, in Jesus Christ

 

Raymond

 

QUESTION:  life

 

I saw this site: www.demonbuster.com
it practically attaches a demon to practically everything bad in life, is it biblical?


I also have the problem where people think I am gay, even though I am not, recently I was sitting in the park and a 60 -70 year old man  propositioned to take me to his place 'close by' and have homosexual sex! I left there quick!


Now, could it be a demon, like that website says? I am sick of people thinking I may be gay when I know I am not. We live in a sick world...

William G.

 

ANSWER:

  

Hello William:

 

Remember William, there are many demons in this world and it’s Satan’s world – we are in it but NOT OF IT.  If you DO know about the personality of Satan and how he deceives people, you will learn to have your guard up and your WHOLE ARMOR on all the time.  His fiery darts will not be able to harm you when you trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.  Read Ephesians 6:10-18, this is most important for a Christian.

 

Also, “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” I Peter 5:8.  But, if you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and if you are resisting the devil, you have nothing to fear.  We must still watch out for demonic attacks, “Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.” (2 Corinthians 2:11).  “Submit yourselves therefore to God, Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. (James 4:7).  We, as Christians, have the authority of Christ over demons – “Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. (Luke 10:19).  They are powerless against us unless we surrender to them out of fear or lack of faith.  And, yes, William, there is pretty much a demon attached to nearly everything in this world.  Why do you think the Word tells us to put on the whole armor?  Yes, because everything bad in this life has a demon attached to it, and only with His armor are we able to fight off these evil demons.  God’s armor brings victory because it is more than just a protective covering, it is the very life of Jesus Christ Himself – as in Romans 13:12-14 -  …let us cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.  Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.  But put ye on the Lord jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.”

 

Of course, the man that propositioned you for homosexual sex had a demon.  Next time it happens, rebuke the person in the name of Jesus Christ, and do as you did, leave immediately.  Even parks today aren’t safe for small children, and as well, not safe for adults.  Yes, we live in a very sick world.

 

As far as the demonbuster site, I read their “deliverance” page and agree with all of the Scripture on it and some of the things they said, but not necessarily all of it.  I do not believe that people should be going around casting demons out of others...this is something that I do not take lightly – this web site is very wrong and unscriptural on this matter. 

William, stay strong in Jesus Christ, the Word, and put on all of His armor and be prepared to fight the battle of faith. 

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

QUESTION:  KJV

 

Hello, and thanks for your webpage.  I have a question about the 1611 KJV:  Were there any translations of the Bible before or since 1611 that were made 

in other languages that are infallible as the Authorized KJV?  If so, what are they?

 

Thank you.

 

Stan from South New Jersey

 

ANSWER:

  

Hello Stan:

 

Thanks for writing!  I would have to say there are no translations of the Bible before or since 1611 in other languages that are infallible.  Have you read my article on the King James Bible: http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/thebiblekingjames1611.htm - and the Bible charts as follows: http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/streams.htm

 

In 1,400 BC the first written Word of God: The Ten Commandments were delivered to Moses.  Although not specifically stated, the Ten Commandments were obviously written in ancient Hebrew (English wouldn't exist for about another 3,000 years).

 

Hope the bible chart on my web page will help.

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

QUESTION:  Popes

 

I read in a church history book one time that around 700 ad a pope declared himself pope and listed all the people that had supposedly come before him that were popes.  He also said all the power all popes now have.  A Lutheran, former Catholic, seminary student confirmed the date to me.  Could you give me any information.  I would appreciate it.


Thanks, Laura.

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello Laura:

I don’t have much on the years 700-799, but what I do have I’m sending in the following.  I do not know for sure about a pope who proclaimed himself pope – but it could be one on the list below.  There were antipopes during this period of time, it could be one of them.  I don’t know if you know this or not, but the Catholic church has deleted many names of popes due to their being excommunicated, or didn’t want the public to know about them.  Even the woman who became pope Joan in the 800’s, and there is much about her on the internet – and I know this was in print in the Catholic Douay Bible (Lists of Popes) of the 1940’s of which I have a copy, but couldn’t find it for this e-mail.  This period of time you speak of, the 700 years, even up to 1000 AD was known as the “Dark Ages”, so much is not in print.  If you should happen to find that history book again, I would be interested in its name if you would be so kind as to pass it on to me I would truly appreciate it.  Sorry I can’t be of any more help. 

701    Sergius I, Syrian/Italian Pope (687-701) dies
701    John VI of Greece becomes the 85th pope and dies in 705
705    John, son of Plato, becomes the 86th Greek pope under the name John VII (705-707)
708    Sisinnius, son of John, (Greek-Syrian) becomes the 87th pope under the name       Pope Sisinnius, and died 20 days later.
708    Constantine becomes the 88th pope under the name Pope Constantine.  Constantine (Greek-Syrian Pope, dies in 715).
715    Gregory, son of Marcellus, becomes the 89th pope under the name Gregory II died in 731.
731    Gregory, son of John of Syria, becomes the 90th pope under the name Gregory III and dies in 741
741    Zacharias, son of Polichranus, becomes the 91st pope under the name Zacharias
(Zachary).
752    Stephen II becomes the 92nd pope.  Stephen II assumes the title of the fifth anti-pope for less than a year.  After the death of Zachary, a Roman priest named Stephen was elected but died (four days later) before his consecration as bishop of Rome, which would have marked the beginning of his pontificate.  Another Stephen was elected to succeed Zachary as Stephen II  (His name is included in some lists, but not all.
752      Stephen III becomes the 93rd pope (From 752-757)  There is a mix-up on dates here – there are 2 different stories about this which comes from the Catholic church     
757    St. Paul I becomes the 94th pope.
767    Stephen IV becomes the 95th pope.  Constantine II (767-768, 768-769) assumes the title of the sixth anti-pope until 769.  There is also a mix-up on dates on this pope in the Catholic Answers, Sunday Visitor.  Wouldn’t know which dates are true on these popes, as this is mostly taken from Catholic pages.  CONSTANTINE MAY BE THE ONE YOU SPEAK OF – TRY DOING SOME MORE HOMEWORK ON HIM AND YOU MAY FIND YOUR ANSWER.
768    Philip (antipope) July 31, 768 retired to his monastery on the same day
772    Adrian I becomes the 96th pope.
795    Leo, son of Atyuppius and Elizabeth, becomes the 97th pope under the name Leo III.  Here begins more discrepancies – The Sunday Visitor Catholic Answer (Vol. 2/Number 1, March-April 1988 article-The popes, from A to Z) says: Leo III was pope from 795 to June 12, 816.

Thank you for writing!

In Jesus Christ, Raymond

QUESTION:  Regarding the Old Testament

 

Hello Raymond,

 

Thanks for the response. Unfortunately I don't remember everything I wrote to you. You seemed very knowledgable about the bible and to study it, follow Jesus and god and to witness is pretty much all we are here for.

 

You provided me with alot of evidence, I'll return some questions, however, I can't always probvide scripture as though I know what's in the bible, I don't know where to find it as easy.

 

First though, let's give Jesus credit, when asked which commandment was the most important, he beat the question. Maybe they should have forced him to pick one commandment but he found a way to sum up all 10 commandments in 2 statements. Do you at least acknowledge these 2 commandments were stated in the old testament?  Had the people known their bible, they would have known this was not a new rule. Also if people would have known the correct interpertation and meaning of the bible (which none of us have it down 100%) Jesus wouldn't have had to correct them so much. But you say these 2 new commandments have nothing to do with the law right? If you love god with all your heart, are you going to take his name in vain?, are you going to place other gods before him?, are you going to make images instead of him, are you going to break his holy day? I think it is all to easy for us to claim we love something, it is a little bit more difficult to let our actions speak louder than words. If you love your neighbor are you going to steal from him, kill him, sleep with his wife, etc.? I find it impossible to claim to love my wife but be willing to cheat on her.

 

If you read when in Matt.4, when Jesus was in the desert, 3 times he quoted from Deut. to the devil. One of the quotes went something like this, "man shall not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of god." Does god talk to nations today? I'd say no, but the bible is the voice of god, including the old testament. Jesus clearly stated Deut. 8:3, 6:16 and 6:13 to fight off the devil. There are several other places where Jesus clearly states scripture from the old testament. If Jesus can use it, should we not use it today to help fight off the devil?

 

I believe Paradise and Heaven are the same place. I can show you verses if you need them.

 

When baptized, Jesus said he came to fulfill righteousness. Does this mean, righteousness like the law is done away with?

 

If you read 1 John 2:3-11, this is labelled as the if you know him test. How do we know him, if we keep his commandments, it claims that anybody that says I know him and does not keep his commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him.

 

I'd also suggest that grace is not all you need to be saved. Eph. 2:8 says you are saved by grace through faith. If it was only grace needed, every single person would be saved. But in Matt. 7:22,23 Jesus makes it clear that some will be lost. Those some are even doing the work of Jesus and God. Jesus also keeps talking about the "doctrines of man," which why would he care unless they go against the word of God.

 

 In the same way, we can learn something from the old testament. Saul was told by God to wipe completely destroy them, bring back no souvenirs or booty from this campaign. In 1 Samuel 15:14-15, Saul decided to keep a few of the finest cattle for a offering to God. God rejected Saul as a king for Israel. Yet Saul was disobeying God in order to worship him!!!! But not worshipping God in the way God told him to obey him. I feel the bible makes it very clear how to correctly worship God, anything less, could get one in trouble.

 

This is how I feel about grace applying to being saved. Say for example if my wife has a rule that I have to be in bed by 10:30 pm, no matter what. Say if I am flying home and the plane gets delayed and I don't get home until midnight. Did I break my wife's rule? Am I not able to be punished as she sees fit? But she decides that because the plane was delayed, it wasn't my fault, so I don't get punished. Now if I week later, I got out with my friends and don't come home until 11 pm. Can I claim that I am under her "grace" and therefore the law doesn't apply to me? I'd say, No, it is her grace, she is the one that decides how and when it can be applied. Do you not think Satan wins if we tell everyone, do nothing and you will be saved?

 

I say no, live, love God and Jesus with all your heart. Help those around you, witness, and show God you love him by trying to keep his commandments.

 

Your brother in Christ. Michael

 

ANSWER:

  

Hello Michael:

 

First of all, I give Jesus Christ all of the credit for the Word, after all, the Word is Jesus Christ and I give Him the credit for the 2 New Commandments He left us under the His New Covenant in which we find the means for man to be saved, and certainly NOT under the Old Covenant.

 

I think that religion has brain washed you and you have a vail over your eyes.  You are here on this earth for more than taking up space.  You have a stewardship to the Father through Jesus Christ.  The Word (Jesus Christ) of God is your road map.  You are to be a soldier in the Lord’s army.  I wish I had you close to me for a private lesson in faith; you need a lesson on faith and grace.  Using the Old Testament scripture to fight off the devil is not for the Christian.  Just as Paul told us in the New Testament to walk in the Spirit – “This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.” (Galatians 5:16).  One could not do that according to the Old Covenant.  To “walk in the spirit” means to live one’s life under the control and influence of the Holy Spirit which was given to us after Christ’s death.

 

Forget the Old Covenant, it can not save or guide anyone, as God has made every provision for us to overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil in the New Testament, for “we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.” (Romans 8:37).  We can only overcome these things through Him, Jesus Christ, not the words of the Old Testament.

 

Just look at Jewish history and you should see that they were in a mess, and you should know this as you seem to be living under the law.  And, you are simply mixing law and grace which creates a ‘doer’ or works-righteousness based religion, and Paul underscores that we cannot do this: “And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace.”  Rom 11:6 … “What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, lowed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.  But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.  Wherefore? Because they sought it NOT by faith, but as it were by the works of the law.  For they stumbled at that stumblinstone:” (Romans 9:30-32).  This scripture in Romans 9 is proof that God entered into the Old Covenant law with ONLY Israel, the Jewish people.  God did NOT enter into the Old Covenant agreement of the Law with us in any way, shape or form.

Michael, keep in mind that you (IF YOU are born again into Jesus Christ) are under the NEW COVENANT – GRACE! 

 

Your way of explaining Grace is very confusing – as you have added to God’s Grace your own works, and you Michael are under Legalism according to your worldly explanation – and if the Old Covenant Law were still in effect today, you and all those living according to the Law would have no future at all, as ALL hope of salvation would then be taken away.  But, since the grace of God reigns, however, we can be of good cheer as our hope is in Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour, that is if you are saved.

 

You remind me those in the Galatian church, as the Galatians were found on the ground of free grace, they too were so quickly moving away from it; having begun in faith, they were seeking to be made perfect by works, just as you are doing.  Legality does just that, it forsakes the yoke of Christ bringing man under a yoke of bondage to law. The Galatians were told that if they sought to live by "works of law" they were "severed from Christ," having "fallen away from grace." (Gal. 5:4).  Many religions today are making salvation dependant upon works and not upon grace.  As it was with the Jews and the Judaisers, so is it with the denominations and the cults of men today; men are overtaken by a legalistic spirit even in their very zeal for God.  These men make an attempt in understanding the Bible, but they find it difficult and cannot find their way through the Word: “But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.  But even unto this day when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.  Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.  Now the Lord is that spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” (2 Corinthians 3:14-17).  These cannot understand the Word and have no knowledge of the truth given by the Holy Spirit, see: http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/livingholyspiritpower.htm

 

Michael, there is no copy of the original Old Covenant around and if you believe there is you are in error and are studying something that doesn’t even pertain to your salvation.  Read my web page on Covenants: http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/godcovenant.htm and http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/otvsnt.htm also http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/Understandingtheoldvsnew.htm

 

Read Galatians 2:16; also read Gal. 3:1-5.  If you love the Lord and the Holy Spirit, love your neighbor and are born again, you have all you need to be saved. 

In answer to your question; the Father talks to us through the Holy Spirit and His New Covenant, NOT through the Old Covenant which was for the Jew only.  The Ten Commandments were regarded as behaviour rules for the Jews ONLY – NOT commandments for ALL other people i.e. Gentiles.  If you accept the Old Testament as authoritative, then you must adhere to all the Noahide Laws.  Do you?  Michael, are you Jewish? … If so, “all the law” to a Jew means keeping all other 613 commandments of the Old Covenant not just ten. Thus James' point in chapter 2 of his letter is that no one can keep all 613. We must turn to Christ and his New Covenant for salvation.

I cannot agree with your statement about keeping the Law of Ten Commandments. Jesus got rid of the Ten Commandments and replaced it with a much greater morality for his people to follow. For example, I can easily not commit adultery, but it is of a higher morality for one to not even think of a sexual thought concerning another woman. It is easy to not kill, but it is of a much higher moral standard for me not to even dislike another person.  Like Paul said: “…Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.” (Gal. 5:16)  Yet, neither of these actions I mentioned are condemned in the Ten Commandments, but then they were a law for an immature people (the Jews) not for mature Christians in Christ.  That is why Jesus specifically gave us ONLY 2 New Commandments, regardless if He repeated them or not, to the mature Christian who lived Jesus Christ, not the Law of Old which Christ fulfilled at His death.

 

Michael, you go ahead and keep the 7th day Sabbath - Paul's Letter to the Hebrews points out that all those that kept the 7th day Sabbath (Old Covenant) did not enter into God's true rest, which I have tried to explain to you. The “rest” which remains for the people of God is the “rest” of Christ (Matthew 11:28-30). The old Sabbath was to prepare His people for the rest of salvation in Christ, a salvation by faith alone NOT by works of the Law.  No true Christian man or woman has to work or strive to please the Lord.  If they truly walk by faith through Grace, they are already accepted by the Father because they are pleasing to Him by what the Son, Jesus Christ, did for them.

 

What religion are you Michael, 7th Dad Adventist (SDA), Church of God or Catholic?  You would probably have to be one of these, most likely SDA because you objected to the Scripture I said to you and turned around and repeated the same Scripture back to me to prove your point: Ephes. 2:8-9.  You truly are confused or you did not read my answers, nor do you understand my answers or the Scripture.  Perhaps you are more founded in Ellen G. White’s materials, rather than the Word, that could be the reason that you do not know where certain Scriptures are.  If you are a member of one of the religions/cults I mention above, you are a member in the slavery of legalism.

 

Again, we can not earn grace or mercy or pardon, it is a free gift of God through His Son.  I feel that before we talk further, you tell me what religion or cult you are involved in.  I close with: 

 

“If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:31-32).

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

RESPONSE

 

DEAR MICHAEL: THANKS FOR WRITING BACK!   I WILL JUST GO THROUGH YOUR E-MAIL AND PLACE MY ANSWERS TO YOU IN BLUE -  BELOW  EACH OF YOUR PARAGRAPHS OR QUESTIONS.

 

Hello again Raymond,

 

I enjoyed your e-mail and will check out your suggested websites soon.

 

I really don't want to say what my religion is. Too many times it is easier for one to attack another based on what religion they claim to be. For the record, in one weekend I did check out both the 7th Day Adventist church and the Catholic church. So you were kind of right. However, I study only the bible. Over a 5 year period the bible was the only religious book I read. So I am like a virgin when it comes to other sources influencing my beliefs. I did read the first page of Ellen White's The Great Controversy. It looked pretty thick and I thought I would be better reading the bible.

 

Michael, you seem to be on the right path, especially when you say you study only the bible – I am in total agreement on that statement, as we should all study to show ourselves approved.  To me, man’s religion of today is being a member of a named denomination or cult, whether it be Catholic, Lutheran, Protestant, Baptist, JW, Mormon, SDA, Church of Christ, Church of God, Assemblies, Judaism, Scientology, Islam, plus tons of others. I simply tell people to stay out of religions of men and study the Bible given us by the Holy Spirit.  I was a member of one of these, later being involved in 2 others, but after much studying realized that I was a member of a false religion.  I was not saved nor did I have the knowledge of the Word until later in life.  I’m now in my 77th year, 30 some years of studying His word, praising the Lord Jesus daily for changing my life and dying for my sins that I might believe on Him and obtain eternal life with Him forever. 

You say I must be influenced by outside sources, but I can tell you that claim is off. When I said because we both know our bible, I didn't have to give you the exact chapter and verse. That would have turned a half hour response into a 2 hour e-mail, searching for those exact quotes in the bible. If you didn't believe in Jesus, I would have looked for you, because I am positive you know the bible, I believe that when I say something is in the bible, you'll notice the quote is from the bible without needing the verses. If you tell me something the bible says without giving me text, I should be able to decide if it came from the bible before I search to confirm.

 

Praise the Lord that you Michael are not influenced by outside sources as I had been years ago.  Yes, anyone being lead by the Holy Spirit would know what the Word says.  Thank you!  I agree!

 

The bible does start out by saying God was the word. So don't you think you are selling God short if you only include the New Testament? Plus with all the prophesy in the Old Testament poitning to the coming of the Messiah, isn't it nice to use the Old Testament as an arrow pointing to Jesus? This should only strengthen one's religious belief.

 

Michael, I couldn’t possible sell God short when He sent His only begotten Son to fulfill the Old Covenant and leaving us His New Covenant and Testament so that we might be “born again” into Christ, living the Word who is Jesus Christ, the “good news”.  The Old Testament has no spiritual value for the Christian and we could not get saved through it – period!  “Strengthen one’s religious belief”  sure, that’s why all these religions continually study the O.T. to strengthen their RELIGIOUS BELIEF, when they should be studying the New Testament to STRENGTHEN and BE SETTLED IN THEIR FAITH, NOT a “religious belief”, especially when we see that Jesus has already come and died to save the sinners.  One only needs to read the new Testament to see this proof, that is, unless one is still waiting for the Messiah, then he would be a lost Jew who could not get to heaven unless he accepted Jesus Christ as his Saviour and “be born again” today.

Not to mention the strenghtening of faith reading about Job, Daniel, David, all great men who's only purpose was to serve God. (with God and Jesus being the same person, yet still separate, technically one could give them credit for worshipping Jesus too.) Then there are the great one-liners in Proverbs. I just think you are missing out on alot of good stuff not ever reading the Old Testament.

THE STRENGTHENING OF FAITH COMES THROUGH JESUS CHRIST, NOT READING THE OLD TESTAMENT – PERIOD!  I have faith, but it was not strengthened through reading of the O.T. which I have read several times in the past.  How could I miss anything when I have it all – Jesus Christ of the New Covenant of which He has left us for today to live by.  The Jews could not live by the law of old, neither can you.  I have moved forward, leaving the past behind and not looking back, bur rather looking ahead IN Jesus Christ by His Holy Spirit.
 

I have 2 quick questions for you..... Why did Satan get thrown out of heaven? And why was it wrong for Cain to murder Abel?

 

Satan was thrown out of heaven because he believed himself to be as righteous as God.  He wanted to be God.  He was full of the sin of pride which is self righteousness.  Because of his SIN, Satan became a fallen angel, fell from heaven (Luke 10:18) and took 1/3 of angels with him (Rev. 12).  Satan is “prince of the air” (Ephes. 2:2), “the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night” (Rev. 12:10), Satan will be thrown down to the earth again, but this hasn’t happened as yet (Rev. 12:7-9) and when Jesus returns in Revelation chapters 21-23 Satan is bound and cast into a bottomless pit for a 1000 years (Rev. 20:2-3) and then he is released once more for a short period of time (whatever time that may be, it’s the Lord’s time)  but in the end of that period will be cast into the lake of fire forever (Rev. 20:10).  In I John 3:12, John says that Cain “was of that wicked one, and slew his brother … because his own works were evil.” Cain allowed sin to master him in many ways, no love for his brother, was jealous of his brother and killed him. 

 

I have a few bonus questions if you want to take the time to answer them. How do you think this world will end? Do you believe in the secret rapture? Will every single person on earth be saved? If not, who will be lost? You can make this quick answers. I'd rather get an sentence on each and not make you waste too much of your time responding to me.

 

The Word tells us how this world will end!  On “the day of the Lord” (2 Peter 3:10) this present world will come to an end – “Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. (2 Peter 3:12-13).  We see the same in Revelation 21:1, what John saw: – “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away: and there was no more sea.”

 

The event, the “rapture” (word not in Bible), the taking out of the saints is NO SECRET and it’s close.  It’s in the Bible – but many in “religious” cults do not believe it.  In the King James English translation we see the words “caught up” taken from the Greek work harpazo which means “to seize upon with force” or “to snatch up” in I Thes. 4:17, also, please see I Thessalonians 4:13-18.  Paul spoke of the “rapture” as a “mystery” (I Cor. 15:51-54), that is, a truth not revealed until its disclosure by the apostles in Colossians 1:26 – “Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints”.  Again, see the article I wrote on my web page: http://members.aol.com/member888/rapture.htm

 

No, not every single person on this earth will be saved!  Jesus said: “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” (Matt. 7:14) The Word tells us the reason why in that verse and in this one which was again answered by Jesus:  Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.” – (Luke 13:23-24) read the rest in Luke:25-28.

 

Those who are not saved on earth and will be lost for all eternity are those who are NOT “born again” into Jesus Christ, yet some of these believe they are saved because they walked the church aisles and confessed Jesus Christ, got baptized, tithe, attend church regularly, pray, keep the Law…when they are not saved at all.  The broad way is crowded with those who are going straight to hell, yet thinking they will go to heaven (Matthew 7:13-14). The Word says: "…the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God”…and these also: “Be not deceived ; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.  For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption”Galatians 6:7-8. These believed NOT on Jesus Christ, and DID NOT REPENT OF THEIR SIN.  These are they who shall NOT inherit the kingdom of God!


I will share something with you from the Old Testament. Genesis 6:8 Noah found grace, in Exodus 33:17 Moses found grace, the Irealites found faith in Jeremaih 31:2. Hebrews 11 talks more about Old Testament people that were saved by faith and grace. So Jesus didn't bring anything new to the table when he brought grace, just like his 2 new commandments came from the Old Testament, so did his grace idea.
 

Michael, what’s your point, these same things you share with me from the O.T., I can turn around and share the same with you from the New Testament– i.e. Abraham (Romans 4:3; Gal. 3:6-9; James 2:23) and Noah (Heb. 11:7); David (Romans 4:6-8).  Remember, the Moral Law/10 Commandments of the Old Covenant were never intended to take the place of Jesus Christ.  These were merely shadows pointing the people of “faith” who were under the Old Covenant to the “Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” (John 1:29), the One Who fulfilled the Law for ALL, who would merit in His life and death what they could not do under the Law (or we could not do either if we follow the law) in and by themselves.  Remembering that Galatians is written to Christians who were saved by grace and put themselves under the law by the outside influence of men called false brethren.  That is why it’s important to read Galatians 3 where Paul is speaking to the Galatian Christians about the history of both covenants, where he contrasts Moses with the New Covenant.  Perhaps this is the best way to understand.  EVERY SAVED PERSON from Adam and Eve to the very last SAVED PERON ON THIS EARTH is justified through faith in Jesus Christ. Thus Paul can say that the Mosaic covenant was not of faith, but works when he asked them what moved them to depart from the faith back to legalism (back to the works of the law). But now that Christ has come faith has come, and faith is the only means to receive the benefits of the covenant of grace that God has made with us.  We are not under law but under grace.  Do not turn back to the principle of Moses, because to do this is to deny the gospel of Jesus Christ who fulfilled the Law for us. 

And Jesus took ONLY those 2 commandments and made them NEW for us under the New Covenant – It is a NEW set of instructions just as the Old Covenant was new to the Israelites.


Everything I do is out of love. I do not do legalism. I go by what the bible says. Example, When I donate money to certain places, I don't do it for any reason other than I want to help. The bible does mention not to brag about what you give. So I keep it to myself. I agree with what you are hinting at, there isn't enough love in this world. If there was, the world would be a better place. However, I don't do enough and what I do is barely worth mentioning. It isn't going to get me anywhere, but again, that's not why I do it.


Everything that we do should be done because of our love for Jesus Christ and our fellow man.  Any good that any of us do is certainly not worth mentioning.  We should do ALL things in love for Christ, for each breath we breathe is His.  I love ALL!  There is no color or races of men, for All men are created equal by the Lord and they are ALL HIS and I’m only one little part of it by His gift of GRACE through FAITH.


But to me, you seem to be suggesting that we accept Jesus, do nothing and ride out the free grace. Which, to me sounds like one should keep to oneself, not attend any church, not help out others.   I just don't know if Jesus would accept this. Matt 25:31-46 talks implies that when we say no to helping out others, we are saying no to Jesus. With regards to church, Jesus told Peter he was the rock that he was going to build his church on. So for you to say you shouldn't belong to a church, isn't what Jesus was implying/saying.


Michael, some of the greatest explanations on grace are in Titus 2:11-14 - “For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to ALL men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world.  Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works” – Also see Titus 3:8 – these good works spoken of is our Christian living, by living Jesus Christ every day – NOT by keeping the law.  See I Tim. 5:4; Gal. 6:8; Col. 1:10  (these are the things that come automatically for a Christian).  I am not one that says all you have to do is believe in Him – period and then you are a Christian, that would be a false statement – as there are already millions in religion who believe they are Christian just because they say they believe in Jesus Christ and perform good “works”, seeking to please men and satisfying their own flesh (see Galatians 1:8-10).  These are they who are saying “no” to Jesus on the inside. 


Now, with regards to attending any church (and because we are speaking of “grace” here), any system, religion or denomination which perverts God’s grace must be exposed and avoided (Romans 16:17).  Michael, please do not confuse what I am saying.   No, one doesn’t keep to oneself, one becomes a disciple of Christ through witnessing of Jesus and his fruit will be that of a Christian, but one does not have to attend a church building to be a Christian – Jesus didn’t come to set up churches (buildings) of men, He has ONE “CHURCH”, the “body of Christ” (NOT A DENOMINATION), which is all those who belong to Him.  Yes, one should help others – see James 1:27:  “Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.”  As far as Matthew 25:31-46 – this parable speaks of what Jesus will base His judgment on of the sheeps and the goats (all those who profess to being Christian) and that is how these treated Christ which manifests itself in how they treated those in whom Christ lived (“one of the least of these brethren: vs.40)


Michael, with
“regards to church” in your statement above: “Jesus told Peter he was the rock that he was going to build his church on. So for you to say you shouldn't belong to a church, isn't what Jesus was implying/saying.”  Here is where the Holy Spirit must guide you in your understanding of the scripture.  If what you are saying is that you believe Peter to be the one on whom Christ built His church (sounds catholic to me – it that’s what you mean) which would place you under a pope and the catholic religion.  Neither do the words of Jesus imply that one must be a member of a religion (church building). 

The Word says in Matthew:16:18
“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” 

 

Also see Romans 9:33 "As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed."  Would believing "on Peter" as the rock save anyone?

I Corinthians 10:1; 4 states: "....all our fathers...did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual ROCK that followed them: and that ROCK WAS CHRIST."   No where does Jesus imply we should belong to a church (building, religion, denomination, cult).  We are the “CHURCH” – THE MEMBERS OF HIS BODY, THE BODY OF CHRIST.  Please read my article, Unity of the body of Christ, http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/Unityofthebodyofchrist.htm


Have a great weekend, increase the love in the world. I am curious, do you have any thoughts on Revelation as well?

A brother in Christ, Michael.


Michael, as far as Revelation, it would be much easier to read what I have written in my article, The Book of Revelation: http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/revelations.htm than for me to begin explaining what my thoughts are – read the article and you’ll see all my thoughts on Revelation.  Thanks! 


Michael, I hope that his has helped you.  Thank you again for writing!  Just getting prepared to read your next letter - will answer it soon!

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

RE:  You aren’t reading enough

 

Hello Again Raymond,

 

I was looking through the bible yesterday and I realized something amazing!!! I don't think you are reading enough texts after you find a great text.

Remember how I said Jesus' 2 new commandments (taken from the old testament) sum up the 10 commandments nicely? So I was reading in Matt. 22:37-39 about Jesus giving the 2 new commandments, then I did something that you might not have done. I continued to read until Jesus was finished speaking. This included verse 40, which Jesus finished the conversation by saying, "On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets." Can you please tell me what Jesus meant by this? To me, it looks like he is saying these 2 commandments sum up all the other Laws and what the prophets said in the past. What did the prophets say? To me, a prophet is usually sent when people are getting further away from God. So God sents a prophet, like Noah or Moses it is to try to warn people to turn back to God and obey him. Off the top of my head I can't think of any prophet saying something that would discourage people from turning back to God.

 

I also found a similiar case regarding grace. In Romans 6:14,15, Paul clearly wrote we are not under the law but under grace. But how did Paul finish the verse? By asking "shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace?" Different bibles have different translations but the 2 I like have verse 15 ending up with saying "Certainly not!" (notice there is even an exclamation point. Not a big deal though because original bibles didn't have puncuation, it was added by man later. This helpes explain why sometimes puncuation is in the wrong spot). And the other translation says "God forbid." So while Paul knows we are under grace, he is 100% against us sinning away. Paul also clearly states that sinning is going against the law of God. Another quote by Paul says he wouldn't have known what sin is if not for the law.

 

Jesus sums up those who are against his law in Matt 7:21-23, ending with "I never knew you, depart from Me, you who practise lawlessness."

I know you said that the 10 commandments are easy to keep. I agree that you and I can keep a few of the easier ones like though shall not kill and commit adultery, even steal. But I would argue a few of them get into gray areas for keeping. "Though shall have no other gods before me," If a person watches tv 5 hours a day and only reads his bible once a week, is he not showing more love to his tv? I'm not saying he is actually worshipping the tv but 20+ hours a week to 15 minutes does indicate what is more important than God in his life. Likewise if he has to have the biggest possible house and new cars all the time, could these not be images that come before god? On to the next difficult commandment. Making a weekly 24 hour period holy for only worshipping god. It is easy to be distracted by worldly things in that 24 hours. And the last one I'll mention is coveting. Do people not covet fairly easy? Watch a tv commerical and you can't hlep but say, "I need one of those." Or my friend just bought a big screen tv, I am so jealous, etc. I do think coveting comes if you can't let fo after your first reaction but I'm just saying the 10 commandments are harder than you think. The record does show that only one man in 6000 years was able to live without breaking the 10 commandments. Now when Jesus throws in the spirit of the law on top of the 10 commandments, all of the sudden, the adultery commandment and murder commandment, which you and I can easily keep (because we love our fellow man and our wives) just got a littler more difficult because we now have to love everyone 24/7.  Even when bad things are done to us by strangers... hit and runs, breaking into our houses, smashing car windows, stealing cars, etc.

 

I did check out alot of your website. Lots of good topics, I disagreed with a few ones though. I'll do more research before I send you another e-mail though.

But if you could explain to me what I asked earlier about what Matt. 22:40 means plus why Paul would say 'certainly not and God forbid' to sinning because we are not under the law, I would like to know what you think those verse mean.

 

Actually what happened to me, was in January I was approached by 2 Mormon's in some very cold weather up here in Canada, so to be nice and to get them to warm up, I agreed to study with them. They did try to push their bible on me as almost more important than the old bible. While their bible did sound like a bible, it didn't agree 100% with the Holy Bible. So I increased by bible study 10 fold to use God's word to show what I belief in comes from the bible and the bible alone. Unfortunately, the Mormon bible didn't stack up.

 

Good luck in your continued studies, God bless and may we have more days to share the word of God with each other and with others.

 

Mike

Hi Mike:

 

I have always believed, practiced and taught that when studying the Word one must thoroughly read each portion, part or Chaptesr of Scripture that has anything to do with a particular subject.  That way, one can easily identify the context, the “who, what, where, when, and why”, of each passage.  Mike, understanding (by the Holy Spirit) the context of any portion of Scripture is certainly the key to “rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Tim. 2:15)

 

In Matthew 22:40EVERYTHING else hangs on these commands of love. Whatever else there is in the Christian faith and in the life of obedience, it ALL hangs on this.  The law is fulfilled by both loving God and loving your neighbor. 

 

The verse you speak of in Romans 6:14,15 is precisely what the Judaizers, the opponents of Paul, said against his doctrine back then. He states their objection and answers it. "…ye are not under the law, but under grace, What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid." Rom. 6:14, 15.  Continue on: "For the wages of sin is death," says Paul in Romans 6:23. Salvation through Jesus Christ is intended to deliver you from the penalty, power, practice, and one day, praise His Name, even the presence of sin.

 

The apostle Paul was totally convinced that he was saved because he was forgiven of not having kept a system of laws correctly. Paul stated that the power to conquer sin was in the forgiveness, not in a law. Paul taught we are not under a law system of salvation, but under a grace system of salvation. A grace system of salvation is one in which one is saved by forgiveness, NOT by keeping a law or system of rules.

 

 Paul wrote that the ten commandments have been replaced by something much better: "But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not steadfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.  For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious." (2 Corinthians 3:7-11). The ten commandments, engraved in stones, were a ministry of death that had to disappear. Christ brought something better.

 

The gospel of Christ encompasses all fundamental, unchangeable values of the ten commandments. Christians certainly may not steal or murder. But they avoid this because of their love for God and fellowman, not just because there is a command: "You shall not kill".

 

Every Christian should be against sin, but that doesn’t mean that we will never sin as long as we live on this earth.  Because of our sin, we all deserve eternal punishment under the wrath of God (Romans 5:9; 2 Thess. 1:9).  Even being a Christian DOESN'T give us a license to sin.  Though our sins are under the blood and all is well between us and God as far as our sin debt.  What I said above re: Romans 6:14-15 explains it quite well.  God is our ultimate example of mercy. What we really deserve is condemnation and death for our sins. Yet He offers us forgiveness and life through His son Jesus Christ. “The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” (Romans 6:23) We deserve death; He gives us life.   I praise God that He doesn’t treat me as my sins most certainly deserve!

 

In Matthew 7:21-23 – we must keep in mind that Jesus is addressing the Jewish people.  He said: “Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”


So, who are these people who prophesied in His name, cast out devils and did wonderful works all in the name of the Lord?  These are the false prophets and teachers that Jesus spoke of earlier in the chapter.  Notice Jesus said:
“I never knew you which can only mean these had not the Spirit of God.  If Jesus never knew them, they never belonged to Him.

 

Mike, we must live what the Word says and teaches us, therefore apply the New Testament to your life as I do.  That is my recommendation to every man who loves Jesus Christ and his neighbor.

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

RE:  One More Question

 

Hello Raymond,

 

I've been checking out your website a bit more. I have a another question for you, it might be a quick answer.

 

I couldn't find anywhere on your website who you think Michael, the archangel in Revelation is? I was looking at some other websites and the majority seem to think Michael is Jesus. Is this how you interpert the bible?

 

I'll just give you my quick take on it. When Jesus comes, he will have the voice of an archangel. Plus Michael found against Satan in heaven. I read one guy's website and he suggested if Jesus took the form of a man, to try to save man, maybe Jesus took the form of an angel to try to save some of them. Of course, this is not in the bible but it does make some sense. If Jesus and God will be heart-broken over losing one sinner on earth, would it not have broken their hearts losing the angels? And likely, they would have done everything they could, in a fair manner to try to save the angels. The difference is the bible did predict of the coming messiah, whereas there is no comment on the angels being saved.

 

Again, if the bible doesn't have the answer, it must not be too important of a question. Some things we are better off not knowing, other than being a little curious. Like if Adam and Eve only had sons, who did they marry to build the human race? Or if they did have daughters, would their kids not have to have grandkids together to continue the race? Questions like these don't matter much other than us being a little curious. But thanks for any answers. Have a good week.

 

God bless,

Mike.

 

Hello Mike:

 

After reading my website you should know what I believe, please read my Statement of Faith and you will know what I believe about Jesus Christ our Creator and Saviour.  May the Holy Spirit guide both of us by using the Word of God. 

 

There are numerous Scriptures that prove that Michael is NOT Jesus, he’s an angel. Read Hebrews chapter one. This chapter tells us about the superiority of Jesus Christ over the angels:  God has “spoken to us…in these last days…by HIS SON, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.”  It WAS NOT Michael who made the worlds.  Verse 3 tells us: “Who…had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; (verse 4) As Jesus is “…so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.”  And in verse 5, Jesus is contrasted with the angels in heaven, in that He is the only begotten SON of the Father.  Verse 6 and 7 shows us that the Son, Jesus Christ shall be exalted by whom God hath revealed himself, “And let all the angels of God worship him.  Who maketh his angels spirits…  In Verse 8 we see the Father refers to Jesus (the Son) as God – “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever.” When did the Father ever call an angel "God"?  See Verses 10 thru 12 where God the Father speaks of Jesus (the Son) as the Creator of all things (Also see John 1:3 and I Cor. 8:6).  Thus the following: “For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham – Hebrews 2:16.  If Jesus Christ had taken upon himself the nature of angels, he could never have made the atonement for man, as angels are spirits. I could go on, but I sincerely pray that you understand the truth here.

 

The term angel means messenger, which designates their office.  But their nature is that of ministering spirits (“…sent forth to minister for them [the saved in Christ] who shall be heirs of salvation” Hebrews 1:14), non-physical (as Jesus said in Luke 24:39, “for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have”), immaterial living being – (“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Ephesians 6:12).   The good angels are always in heaven in the presence of God. (Matthew 18:10).  The good angels are holy, being confirmed by the Lord of their holy state (Mark 8:38).  The devil and his angels shall be bound in hell for their condemnation to the eternal fire, (Matthew 25:41); they have no second chance for repentance, salvation, or restoration to their former, original state.   “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment” 2 Peter 2:4). 

 

I do NOT believe in any way that writing an article on Michael the archangel would have any meaning.  Whatever there is to know about Michael the archangel is in the bible, it it’s not there, it’s not important for us to surmise why it is not there as that would make no sense whatsoever.  You must remember this, the kind of thing that Paul speaks of in I Timothy 1:4 – “Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.”

 

As for all the other web sites who think Michael is Jesus, they are deceivers and false teachers.  Most cults teach a false view of Jesus.  In 2 Cor. 11:4, Paul warned about false teachers teaching another Jesus.  The Bible teaches that Christ is 100 percent man and 100 percent God.  The Jehovah Witness is one of the biggest cults, along with 7th Day Adventists, for teaching and believing that Michael is Jesus, but MICHAEL IS NOT JESUS.  According to them they do not believe that Jesus is God.  The fact is: THEY DO NOT HAVE ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT THEY CAN POINT TO, SAYING CLEARLY THAT JESUS CHRIST IS MICHAEL. Anyone who denies that Jesus Christ is God is NOT a true believer and will die in their sins - John 8:24 reads: “…for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.”

 

Mike, do you believe that Jesus is God?  JESUS CHRIST IS GOD!  Jesus created the angels as well as man.  The angels are spiritual beings, not human beings, yet they had a free will (as humans have) to either obey God or disobey Him. Satan was never tempted, but sinned of his own free will; but he tempted the other spirit angels, and he and his demons are fallen angels who hate God.  Adam and Eve were created in God’s image, but they sinned, and we have inherited that sinful nature through them, which is why we can never be perfect while on this earth.  Man was designed to rule with Him (Jesus Christ) over all of the works of His hands.  Jesus came to earth as a man and died for all of His creation.  There is no salvation provided for demons or fallen angels, these are all lost and my views never bring me into such a dilemma that God’s heart is broken, for God is just, and He has the right to do as He pleases with His creation.  We all deserve death for our sin, but in the death of Jesus Christ (shedding of His own blood) our sin has been dealt with completely.  See Ephesians 1:7-8 – “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence…” 

 

Mike, please remember, all questions are important, but the answer may not be in the bible, therefore I leave the question behind and know that one day I shall have the answer when I get to heaven.  Mike, any man who rejects what the Bible DOES say about Jesus, and believes something that the Bible DOES NOT say about Jesus, will (as John 8:24 says) die in his sins.  The Bible was given us to show us eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ as in I John 5:13 says:  “These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the son of God.”

 

The MOST important question ANY man (including both of us) can ask is: AM I SAVED?   Be sure you are saved. If you lose your soul, you miss Heaven and lose all.  Mike, to me, that is the most important question for any man on earth to ask.  Jesus tells us quite plainly: “Whosoever therefore shall confess [testify of] me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.” (Matthew 10:32).  Amen! 

 

Hope these Scriptures have helped! 

In His blessed name, Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

RE:  Michael the ArchAngel

 

Hello Raymond,

 

I agree with alot of what you say about Jesus and Michael.

 

I 100% believe that Jesus is the only son of God and including with the Holy Spirirt, they are the only things that have been around forever. They are the only things to worship because they are the creators. Angels and man are the created, and we will never be on the same level as God, even in heaven.

 

I wonder a little about angels, I don't spend much time thinking about them but, for example, when Gabriel made appearances on earth, would he not have looked like a human? (I don't think angels have wings, so I'm guessing they would have looked like everyone else) Likewise, I think Jesus looked just like an average man while here on earth.

 

I think that possibly the bible could have not been 100% perfectly translated. I believe 100% that the Holy Spirit helped inspire every word written down in the orginal bibles. But when we come to certain words, can we take our current meaning and hope they still stand correct? In Hebrew words can mean more than one thing. The word for angel means "messenger" and the word arch can mean "first or greatest". So if we put the two together, who was the greatest messenger? That would be Jesus. In Rev. it mentions that Jesus will come 'with the voice of an archangel,' if he were not an archangel why would he try to sound like one? Again, I can't state more clearly that if Jesus and Michael are the same person/god, calling him an archangel doesn't mean he is created.

 

Besides having a voice of an archangel, this voice does have the power to waken the dead. I believe that only god has the power to raise the dead.

 

I'm also curious why the bible calls the angels, Michael and his angels. (when they fought against Satan and his angels). Clearly the angels that followed Satan were his angels(orginally god's but chose to follow Satan), so if the good angels were Michael's should they have not been called God's angels? Unless if Michael was another name for Jesus. Since my name is Michael, I do know that the name means 'who is like god.' And if that is a question, we can't disagree that the person most like god is Jesus. Plus in Daniel 12:1, it says "Michael is a great prince who protects/delievers your people." Was Jesus not a great prince, the prince of peace, the king of kings, the lord of lords? And Jesus will be the one that protects/saves/delievers his people.

 

Those are just a few of the points that make we wonder if Jesus was Michael. I guess I'm just questioning what Jesus did in heaven before he came as the Messiah? There are some Old Testament scriptures that indicate there was a god on earth. Jacobsays he wrestled with god and saw him face to face. Gen 32:30, yet, it says in the bible no man has seen God's face. So is it safe to assume that Jacob wrestled with Jesus? It couldn't have been the holy spirit that he wrestled with. And those are his only 3 options.

 

And I must stress that when I question what the bible says, I am just refering to which translation is the best? For example in Gen. 6:8 in the NIV in says Noach found favor in god's eyes. Where as the New KJV calls it grace. So was it favour or grace? Either way, Noah was a great man and did what god wanted him to do. And that is all we can do.

 

Michael

 

Hello Michael,

 

I believe that there is enough proof in the Word of God that tell us that Jesus is God, not Michael the archangel.  Please give me the scriptures that specifically say that Jesus is Michael the archangel.  I’ve gone over this with you a couple of times now.  The Bibles you are using will only confuse you.  You are not writing a new bible, are you?  The NIV is one example of this perversion of "Gods word".  If you want to read the translation that is best, use the Authorized King James New Testament Bible, and you will have, what I believe, to be the best translation that is available to man today.

 

Colossians 1:16-17 explains about the creation by Jesus:  “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.”

 

Many people hold to certain religious or cult beliefs about angels that are not even taught in the Scripture, especially Michael the archangel.  Seventh Day Adventists believe that Michael is just another title for the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who is God in the flesh.  Jehovah Witnesses main beliefs are that Jesus Christ is a created being also called Michael the archangel in His pre-existence.  These two cults I mention are very confused and lost people, even though some of them appear as sincere.  We must be very careful when presenting Jesus as Michael the archangel.

 

Mike, I must ask you if you believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ?  If not, why not?  Another question for you, what is it that you believe God wants you to do?  Do you believe there are other gods?  More than one?  Are you saved by Grace, or by works?  Please, let me know your answers to these questions before we go any further into answering your questions.  I would appreciate knowing what you believe, besides Jesus being Michael an angel, which Jesus is NOT an angel.  

 

In Jesus Christ

Raymond

 

Michael, my answers to your e-mail are in blue below.


Hello Raymond,

 

I did mention in the last e-mail that I didn't think angel and archangel mean the same thing.
If archangel does translate to 'greatest messenger', then I do think Michael could be the same person as Jesus, as Jesus was definitely the greatest messenger given to man kind (since the fall). If archangel refers to the highest position of any created being, then no doubt Michael is not Jesus. As Jesus was not created. He, from the begining, was here with his father.

 

Michael, if you are using Michael as alternate to Jesus because it means "like God", what of the angel Gabriel that also means mighty like God, does this make him Jesus too, since Jesus is called "The mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6?  Hebrews 1:5 "For to which of the angels did he ever say "you are my Son today I have begotten you" The answer is: none of them! Michael is an angel, one of many chief ones.  Michael the archangel is NOT the same person as Jesus, for Michael is NOT God the Son, nor did an archangel die for man’s sin.  Again, you believe a 7th Day Adventist teaching if you think Michael could be the same person as Jesus.  Jesus was from the beginning, and in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God. (See John 1:1)

 

I did buy a new bible about 6 months ago called the New Spirit Filled Bbible. It is a New King James version. I don't know if it authorized or not. Before this I did use a NIV for years. I did read the KJV as my first bible. The bad thing for people today is, how are they supposed to find out that they are reading a bad interpertation?  While I was reading the NIV, I didn't see any clear problems, I just came to the conclusion that because the KJV was the pretty much the first published bible, why not get the newer version of the same bible? But again, it is very easy to study a bible that isn't the best of translations.

 

Mike, why are you reading Jack Hayford’s bible?  He and his group wrote the New Spirit Filled Bible for the Pentecostal “Spirit Filled  (tongue talkers) believers”, in other words, Pentecostal charismatics.  Any Christian willing to read the King James Authorized Bible with some clear eyeballs will see the truth without reading another false bible of men, like the New King James.  These modern Bible perversions attack the deity of Jesus Christ.  Even the NIV you have been reading does the same thing, it goes on to agree with the Jehovah Witness Bible, the New World Translation, these also do not believe in the deity of Jesus Christ.  Mike, stick with your King James Authorized Version, it is the most reliable translation.

 

I will answer your questions, they do seem very easy though. I believe 100% that God raised his only son from the grave. I do feel, arguably that Jesus' death (for our sins) was more important than his being raised back to life. Had his blood not covered us, we wouldn't have a chance for anything.

 

Yes, we agree that without the shed blood of Jesus Christ there is no remission of sin for any of us.  The resurrection is also important – for if Christ had not been resurrected, neither would we.  It all goes in the order that Jesus has designed for mankind. The Bible says that one must accept the Lord Jesus Christ as Savior in order for His work to be effective.  Read how important the resurrection is according to Paul in I Corinthians 15:12-28, when he states that if the resurrection is not certain, our faith is in vain.  Jesus did not remain in the grave following His death, He rose again.  Acts 5:30 "The God of our Fathers raised up Jesus"… Romans 4:24 says: “But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead.”  The Word also speaks of the Holy Spirit raising up Jesus – Romans 8:11:  “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."

 

Mike, if the Spirit and the Son Jesus Christ were involved in the resurrection this makes them God.  This is the unity of the Godhead.  The resurrection became the seal of which Christ is with God approving that He is His Son by raising Him from the dead.  And all that the Lord requires of us for salvation is to believe on and have faith in the Person and work of Jesus Christ.  Paul tells us that the only reason we are alive is because Christ is alive in us and His resurrection life gives life to our mortal body…see Galatians 2:20 – “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.  I do not frustrate the grace of God; for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.” 

 

I do not believe in other gods, other than the 3 that were present at the baptism. God the father, his son Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

 

Mike, evidently, you DO NOT BELIEVE THE BIBLE DOCTRINE that there is only ONE GOD (even though you said you do not believe in other gods), especially when you turn around and state as above: “I do not believe in others gods, other than the 3 that were present at the baptism.”   You contradict yourself!  The Word says: “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” I John 5:7 (Emphasis mine).  These are NOT “3 gods” present at the Baptism (of Jesus). There is only ONE God, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit... each is fully God, but there are NOT three gods as you say, only one God!.  Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses believe in three separate gods which is a lie.  The Bible teaches there is one God: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.  This is where one must be very careful in what they speak about the Godhead. 

 

I believe God wants us to love him with all our hearts, to do his will, to stand for him, to spread the gospel and the story of his son to all the world. etc. I also believe that god wants us to dedicate our lives to doing what is good, just and right in his eyes. God gave us the bible, inspired the men that wrote it and wants us to study it so we can find out truths about him. It would be difficult to share the story of God's love and his son if we didn't daily pray and study his bible so he can write his words on our heart and in our minds. While God will write his words on our hearts and minds, I believe that we should help him out. If we, out of love for our creator, try to remain pure of heart, provide him a clean mind and the pen, it would be easier for him to write in our minds and hearts. I think if we get too invovled with worldly things, we can become distracted from being a good servant for God.

 

Yes, I agree!  The gospel (good news) is that if we simply believe in our hearts that Jesus died for all of our sins, that He was buried, then rose again the third day, and ask Him to come into our life as Lord and Savior .  Then, we live Jesus Christ daily!  He will write His words in our heart and on our mind when we study to show ourselves approved.  We can do nothing for the Lord, for He has done it all for us – it is Jesus Christ who died for us and gave us His Word, now all we have to do is follow and live His Word. 

 

I believe we are saved by the grace of God. I do think that we have to choose to accept this grace, as well, people could make choices to give up their grace (not repenting). Without his grace, we don't have a chance. I do think the bible has tons of good advice to follow. I don't think if we read some good advice that we should just get the idea that 'this was a good idea 2000 years ago'. When the bible says you shouuld be slow to speak and slow to anger, I think this should apply to every single person who claims to love Jesus. This was in the book of James. I also read James2:14-26. This makes deeds look as important as faith. You may think I am suggesting abtou 'working my way to heaven' but I am not, as you coudl work 24/7 all your life and not even be 1% righteous enough to get to heaven. When I think of faith and deeds, James does throw in the word action. Anybody can claim to have faith and even hold their beliefs very dear. But doesn't Jesus want us to share our beliefs and the gospel? He doesn't want us to hide our faith but take advantage of every situation, doing everything for the glory of his father.

 

Amen!  "By grace ye are saved." (Ephes. 2:5-9)  Salvation must be by grace through Faith. If man be lost by sin, how can he be saved except through the grace of God?  We cannot get hold of salvation by grace through any other means other than by faith, it’s not of ourselves by our works or religious doctrine or tradition of men, it is a gift of God through His Son Jesus Christ - “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; (Ephes. 1:7).  No more was required for our salvation than redemption through his blood (1 Pet. 1:18, 19).  By all means we must share our faith and witness of Jesus Christ and what He has done for mankind, whether others believe us or not.

 

I do have a question about Jesus. He was a god before he came to earth. I am assuming he would have became a man the second Mary became pregnant? So for those 9 months, I'm assuming he just hung out waiting to be born. The bible doesn't say much about this. I do believe that Jesus had all the characteristics of a sinful man, he just overcame all the temptation.

 

MOST IMPORTANT:  John 1:1 says: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”  Thus – “THE WORD WAS GOD,” NOT “a god” as the Jehovah Witnesses teach.

 

Michael, Jesus was not A god before he came to earth – He WAS GOD! Always was, is, and always will be, in any form He chooses to use, i.e. beginning as an infant, growing into a man.  Because Jesus Christ is God in the flesh (2 Cor. 5:19), He had no beginning and will have no end. Some cults and false religions teach that Jesus did not exist before He came to earth.

 

Phil. 2:6-7—Christ Jesus… “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: but made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men.

 

"Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil" (Heb 2:14).

 

“For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh.” (Romans 8:3)

 

Also see Hebrews 2:16-18 which should help in answering again, your question below: “For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.  Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.  For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.” 

 

I think I answered all your questions. If you could, could you give me an answer as to why when Jesus comes again, he'll have the voice of an archangel and this archangel's voice has the power to wake the dead?

 

Here, again, we have gone over this and I had given you an answer, what is it you do not understand?  Are you a Jehovah Witness or SDA?   I believe you are getting too technical, just accept it as written and believe.  Perhaps this scripture will help – in John 5:25 "Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live." As Jesus said he is the resurrection and the life. Later in John 6:39 he states ‘This is the will of the Father who sent me, that all he has given me, I should lose nothing, but should raise it up on the last day."  Whose voice is it that raises the dead?  IT IS THE SON OF GOD.

 

Michael, are you a Seventh Dad Adventist?  Perhaps that is what is confusing you.  Are you studying under these cults?  SDA, Mormonism, Jehovah Witness?

 

Also, I read Revelation last week. An angel gave John his visions and in chapter 22, verse 9, John bowed down to this angel. However, the angel told him to get up, not to worship him because he is also a created being and the angel told him to "worship God." However, in Joshua 5:13-15 Joshua meets the commander of the lord's army. In Rev. 12:7, we see Michael is the leader/commander of the army fighting against the devil. One can assume that the army fighting the devil would probably be the good/god fearing army. Back to Joshua, he fell down and worshipped this 'commander of the lord's army.' My question is this, given in Rev. we see that angels don't accept worship, why didn't the commander of the lord's army tell Joshua to only worship god?  By accepting Joshua's worship, if this commander of the lord's army wasn't God, he committed blasphemy by placing himself in God's position. Was this angel one of Satan's angels?  I don't think the commander of the lord's army was God, because the bible would have said it was God. Plus the bible would contradict its self because it says that nobody has seen god. So the way I think the bible makes sense, possibly, is if this Michael is the commander of the lord's army. And only if he is the greatest messenger, which is Jesus. I am very open to discussion on this.  You've studied the bible way more than me, so maybe you could explain why the commander would accept worship, when no created being, who follows God, would do that.

I hope you are having a good week. God bless.

 

Mike.

 

First of all, we must believe that the Lord can do anything He chooses to do with His angels, He created them.  No, the angels do not accept worship.  Hebrews 1:7 establishes angels are servants by nature. As far as Revelation 22:8-9 in the King James Bible, it says:  “And I John saw these things, and heard them.  And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.  Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

If, as we see in Revelation, that the angels don’t accept worship, then why does it matter that the commander of the Lord’s army didn’t tell Joshua (Old Testament) to only worship God? The answer is: because it was the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ speaking.  I believe it was Jesus, the Son of God, the eternal Word Who appeared to Joshua and Joshua gave Him worship: He received that worship, which a created angel would not have done. It was NOT one of Satan’s angels, nor was it Michael the archangel.  And, whose battle was it anyway, Joshua’s or the Lord’s battle?  Joshua's inquiry “Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?” shows an earnest desire to know the will of Christ, and a cheerful readiness and resolution to do it.  We should and must be the same in telling the “Good News” of the gospel of Jesus Christ.   

 

Also, take a look at Paul’s response on the road to Damascus, when he came to realize it was the glorified Lord Jesus Christ who was speaking to him. He quickly answered, “What shall I do, Lord?” (Acts. 22:10).  These are teachings for our benefit, teaching us to trust the Lord and the provisions He provides us with, which is in the Word, where we find direction for our daily lives as Christians.

 

As it was with Joshua, so should it be with all of us in the army of the Lord Jesus Christ, following the Lord, submitting to His authority, taking our orders from Him through His Word by the Holy Spirit, and resting the battle in His hands because we realize it is really His battle as the Supreme Commander. There seems to be no question that Joshua understood this as evidenced by his question, “What saith my lord unto his servant?” (Joshua 5:14) and here he asks the Lord for orders as we all should be doing when reading His Word.  Even now, we have a better testament in that Jesus Christ speaks to us through his Word by the Holy Spirit.

 

Michael, stay in the New Testament!  Not all of our questions may be answered while we are on earth, and if the Word by the Holy Spirit doesn’t answer our question, we should leave it, especially if it isn’t important for our salvation or any other person’s salvation.  Remember, we’ll have all the answers once we are in heaven with the Lord.  But, if you are very inquisitive, keep studying on your own.  I have not done a thorough study on every angel in the Bible of which the word “angel/angels” probably appear a couple hundred times in the Bible.  To me, the Lord created His angels and He knows them well, but it isn’t important that I know their every move, because I can not know everything there is to know about them.  Again, you are getting very technical. 

 

Correct, no one has seen God, yet Jesus Christ is the revelation of God, by which we can easily understand and see what Jesus said:  “…he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?  Believeth thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?  The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.  Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me.” (John 14:9-11)  Also see John 12:45 – “And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.”  The revelation of the Son of God was the revelation of God Himself - the dawning of greater grace.  Do you understand this?

 

A believer in Christ cannot have an INCOMPLETE understanding of Jesus. It cannot be superficial or deficient in any way. He must be seen as the Saviour of mankind.  Our having knowledge of every angel in the Bible doesn’t mean anything to the Lord, but our knowledge and understanding of Jesus Christ does.  Angels can’t save us, but Christ did.  Angels can’t raise us from the dead, but Christ will.  When Jesus commits Himself to someone, He teaches them by His Holy Spirit. They become His disciples. If a person is not teachable, they probably are not committed to Christ. One of the themes of the book of John is the deity of Christ as conveyed in the first chapter. The grand truth that the Word became flesh is another.

 

Mike, the Word of God is sufficient in communicating God’s plan.  Please remember, God is one in unity, one in purpose, and one in nature.  If I were you I would not spend too much time surmising what is and what isn’t. There are many things we will never be able to fully understand with our minds while on this earth, but one day we will have the answers to questions when we are with the Lord because we’ll have the mind of Christ.

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

 

QUESTION:  God

 

Who was the kings when the new testament was written


 

ANSWER:

  

Hello Anthony:

 

I’m not quite sure I fully understand your question.  But I’ll give it a try and if my answer doesn’t pertain to what you wanted to know, please write back with a further explanation. 

The New Testament was written (not printed) between (approximately) 35 A.D. and 100 A.D.  The New Testament does not contain history on different kings of that time.  You would have to look at history books.  There were procurators or emperors during and after the time of Jesus Christ, i.e., Herod, Caesar, etc.  The bible doesn’t specify any certain reign of kings during 35 AD and 100 AD, but history books do speak of them, you’d have to search it out yourself and do a history lesson on it.

 

While Jesus was on earth, He was the “King” of kings and offered His kingdom (the Kingdom of GodMatt. 12:28 and Matt. 21:43) to those who would receive Him as their King.  Though Jesus is not physically reigning on earth, those who believe in Him literally have their membership in the kingdom of God.

 

If you have further questions, please write again.  Thank you for writing!

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

QUESTION:  Sign of the cross

 

Dear Sir

Dear Madame

Years ago I was searching the web and a website (forgot which, alas!) said that the sign of the cross performed by the Catholic priests was actually the sign of Zeus (like a “4”); If I remember right, they start it by dragging the right hand up (vertically), then they drag their hand from the cross’ top point to its left and then they cross it from left to right (horizontally), thus it looks like a “4”. Do you have any info on that, or do you know any website that talks about it?

Thanks

Anne C.

 

ANSWER:

  

Hello Anne:

 

Thank you for writing!

 

The sign of the cross was and is a pagan superstition, just as Zeus is in association with pagan festival and worship practices.  All Greek mythology, once written became useful in pagan practices.  Don’t know if you read my article on my web page:

http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/articles.html

 

The article is "Sign of the Cross" at: http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/signofcross.htm

 

Thanks again Anne for writing.

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

QUESTION:  Fellowship with unbelievers

 

 

Hello Brother Raymond


I was just wondering, my daughter's boyfriend's family are catholic, which the bible says are unbelievers. Anyway, they keep inviting me to their house and to the beach for a cookout. Is it wrong for me to have fellowship with them? I am kind of confused, because I know their is another scripture in the bible, that says, if an unbeliever, invites you to a meal, go to it. My question to you is should I fellowship with them are shouldn't I ? And while I'm on the subject. is it appropiate for a christian to go to the beach?


                                     In Jesus Christ
                                              John


P.S.  I hope Sister Norma is doing well.

 

ANSWER:

  

Hi brother John:

 

John, always do as the Word says - follow your heart!  You know also that we can't save the world, but we can always be a good witness for Jesus Christ wherever we go.  The scripture you refer to is I Cor. 10 27.  I can't tell you whether you should go to the beach or not go - if it's sin for you stay home, if not, go.  We would have to leave this world to get away from the evil things that are in it, but we don't have to take part in those things that are evil, we avoid them.  Hope this helped you.  Norma and I are fine in Christ.

 

Love to you brother,

In Christ

Raymond

 

QUESTION:  Regarding the Old Testament

 

Hello,

 

While I found alot of good information on your website, I couldn't help notice you say we should throw the old testament away. You say it got notbody to heaven. I think Enoch would like to argue that point with you.

 

Also Jesus didn't forget the old testament, numerous times he'd say "it is written," or ask "haven't you read the scripture?' So telling us to throw away the old testament is telling us not to listen to Jesus.

 

When Jesus was in the desert beign tempted by Satan, 3 times he quoted from Deut. which in my bible is found in the old testament. Also Jesus gave us 2 'new' commandments. Where did he get these from? Did he just make them up, or did he look to the old testament and get them from Deut. 6:5 and Levit. 19:18? Word for word. I'll still look at your website but please make these changes as not accepting the truth, when shown is something our God and Jesus wouldn't be a big fan of.

 

Hopefully, A brother in Christ.

 

ANSWER:

  

Hello Michael:

 

Thanks for writing!

Old Testament saints, including Enoch, went to Paradise/Abraham's bosomNeither Enoch, Elijah nor Moses went to heaven UNTIL AFTER Jesus Christ died.  They went to paradise which Jesus explains to us in the New Testament, Luke 16:19-31.  Therefore, no man ever ascended into heaven until Jesus did and led captivity captive (Ephes. 4:8).  Also, read Hebrews 11:5: "By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God."  Enoch did not ascend to heaven as Jesus did because Jesus was the first ever to ascend to heaven.  Hebrews 11:13, 15-16 also says that this "heavenly hope" was given not only to Enoch, but also to Abel, Noah, Abraham and Sarah: "These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.  But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city."

 

Michael, the Old Testament has been fulfilled in Christ, as the Old Covenant was complete just as Christ says, "it is finished" (John 19:30), meaning it was complete.  One must be guided by the Holy Spirit in order to know the difference between the Old Testament and New Testament.  The Old Testament contains the LETTER of the Law (written on tablets of stone) which condemns, and was given to the nation of Israel only.  The New is of the SPIRIT of the law (which is love) 2 Corinthians 3:6, and not the letter of the law (which condemned and killed) and is given to all men who would believe on Jesus Christ, the Mediator between God and man.  I'm probably going to talk on here Michael, but I want to make this very plain and according to the Word and pray the Holy Spirit guide both of us in what I'm saying and what you read here.

In the old covenant, there was no hope of eternal life for anyone who broke any of the laws set down.  Therefore, the priests of the Old Covenant performed their yearly ritual of the sprinkling of the blood of an animal (killed in sacrifice) over the mercy seat for the sins of the people who broke the law.  The blood was sprinkled over the ark to cover the sins the people committed.  Now, even though the sprinkling of the blood once a year for the sins of the people didn't mean they would go to heaven when they died, they still went to Paradise (Abraham's bosom).  The law that was performed with the priests of the old covenant and all the things inside the temple was taken away and destroyed after Jesus Christ came.  And, without the place where sacrifices could be made there was no atonement for sin.  Christ came to fulfill the Old Testament types of sacrifice. 

All people under the new covenant (in the New Testament), have a different means of repenting of sin - we don't have to bring an animal to be sacrificed, as Jesus Christ was the supreme sacrifice for all sin - but through our faith in Jesus Christ (the Mediator), who is our High Priest of the new covenant, we repent and are forgiven.

Michael, perhaps you forget one thing about Jesus, He was born and raised a Jew, (was not a Catholic, Baptist or Protestant) having learned the scriptures as all Jews did, so, naturally He would quote from them.  But, He didn't quote from them so that we should live by the law.  Jesus said:  "These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me." (Luke 24:44). Most of the time when He quoted from the Scripture He was rebuking the Scribes and Pharisees. And where do we see Jesus quoting from the Scripture of Old?  In the New Testament:

Mat 19:4

JESUS SPEAKS

TO THE PHARISEES

IN REBUKE:

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

Mat 21:16

JESUS REBUKES THE

CHIEF PRIEST AND

SCRIBES IN THE TEIMPLE:

And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?

Mat 22:29

JESUS REBUKES THE

SADDUCEES IN THE TEMPLE:

Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

Mark 12:24

JESUS AGAIN REBUKES THE

SADUCEES

And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?

Luke 6:3

JESUS HERE REBUKES THE

PHARISEES

And Jesus answering them said, Have ye not read so much as this, what David did, when himself was an hungred, and they which were with him;

Jesus knew what we needed to know and those things the Holy Spirit added to the New Testament for our learning, therefore, we are listening to Jesus and please do not try to twist what I've said and assume by your own beliefs that it is what I meant.  I have never told anyone not to listen to Jesus, nor would I.  I preach and teach Jesus Christ for salvation. He is my Lord and my Saviour who saved me from the pits of hell.

 

Michael, we live by GRACE through faith and it's free, "it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Ephes. 2:8-9).   

Michael, Jesus gave us two New Commandments ("NEW" meaning the means by which the commandment is carried out), and that was to love the Lord thy God and your neighbor.  It had nothing to do with the old law, when, in fact, Jesus said that He came to FULFIL the law.  When we die to "self", we take on Jesus Christ in whom the requirements of the law have been completed in Him, whereas the law no longer has a hold on us.  Do you keep the Sabbath?  Do you keep ALL of the law?  If you break one, you break them all and judged by them if you are a law keeper of the old covenant.

 

We see the lawyer who approached Jesus and asked Him: "Master, which is the great commandment in the law?  Jesus said unto him. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.  This is the first and great commandment.  And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.  On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."  (Matt. 22:36-40).  Also look at Ephes. 2:8-9: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."  Paul further emphasizes the same point in Gal. 2:16: "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ . for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."

 

Michael, please notice that both of these commandments simply summed up "all the law and the prophets."  They all hang upon these 2 principles of love.  Jesus was saying that love is the fulfilling of the law as we see it later repeated through Paul in Romans 13:10.  This is the Law of Love and is what the cross teaches us, the Christian.  Once we are dead to the word and alive in Christ, the law of God's love is revealed to us by His Holy Spirit.  You see, it is not the law that brings man justification; it is Christ's shed blood.  Only by abiding in Christ can we fulfill the perfect love of God in our own lives.

 

Michael, I have accepted all of God's truth and I will make no changes of that.  The Gospel is: No One could obey the law, so God sent His only Son into the world to lay down His life in our place for our sins.  When you break ONE single small detail of the law, you are as guilty as if you broke them all, and it is written that God made it that way so that no man could boast in the law.  NONE, at least no true Christian, walks by the law, we walk by faith, and faith and grace are in no way mixed with that which only had one purpose, to condemn.  This is what the Word teaches!  We live not in the Old Testament, but in the New.  Any man that is yoked to the Old Testament Law will die by it. 

 

Michael, if you walk only by faith, Jesus will be on your side. 

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond


QUESTION:

 

 Hi Raymond & Norma,

 

I've been wanting to write for some time, but have been somewhat reluctant due to a desire to seek the answers by following the scriptures alone in the beginning. I read only the KJV and have been studying and researching the new world order for some time which brought me to your website by accident (?). I appreciate the effort you put in to the website and getting the Word out there. I came to the Lord a little over a year and a half ago after finally waking up to the obvious signs surrounding the world. After many days and nights of tearful prayers I made a decision to give my life to Christ and to follow in truth and in spirit.every day for the remaining days of my life.

 

The following year has been a constant struggle with my wife who is a believer, but feels I'm "extreme" in my faith. I rejoice in her opinion because I promised the Lord that I would serve him faithfully. I have made some tough choices and decisions that affect my wife and two daughters and I'm seeking reassurance I guess.or advice from an elder who certainly knows the scriptures. I'm sure you've struggled with your faith in the beginning Raymond, but I've had a serious "test of faith" recently and it has left me shaken and dismayed. After faithfully studying the Word to show myself approved, and constant prayer asking the Holy Spirit to guide me in my walk for answers I really felt a sense of closeness with Jesus Christ and even had a sense that I was able to discern good from evil at many times.

 

I finally took the necessary steps to rid my home and our lives of many abominable pagan traditions and holidays. I purchased a VHS tape from Cutting Edge ministries on occult holidays and asked my wife to watch it. This was just before this past Easter weekend and at the time my wife and I were not seeing eye to eye on many things which I'll write about another time. The tape finally convinced my wife of what I wasn't able to by simply talking with her. We have explained these holidays to our 4 year daughter and I was finally relieved and convinced that I was making progress bringing us all closer to the Lord.

 

My concern is in relation to the authorized KJV. As I've stated earlier I follow the Cutting Edge website regularly gain insight on many issues relating to Illuminati and the New World Order, but I don't necessarily agree with they're Baptist teachings. The problem arose very recently when they started writing about the occultic nature of the KJV and the blatant occult images and symbolism within it's pages. I am aware that the KJV is far from perfect, but this bothered me immensely. I then did what I always do.I started researching the subject to seek the truth as I do with all things after coming to Christ. What I found startled me and has left me badly shaken. Cutting Edge believes as you do Raymond that the text of the authorized KJV was preserved by our Saviour and I want to believe that, but while searching for answers I came across a website that I decided to research. The site in question (http://www.nazarite.net/) had many blasphemous things to say (from what I've been learning) about the KJV and other subjects such as the Holy Trinity, and Christians in general. I was badly shaken by what I was reading. Now, I'm not the type of person to totally reject something without a little consideration (after all, I've studied every bit of info on your site and we'll all agree that yours is not easy to swallow at first) and after reading some of the information this person provides, I've begun to question my faith.which is disastrous as it must sound.

 

My question.have you seen this website or know of it? Have others mentioned this site before or are you aware of the doctrine this person follows. He obviously follows the strict original Hebrew text or believes he is. From what I've read from your responses and your studies is that the Hebrew originals are no longer around.is that correct Raymond? Where did you find this information? A lot of what he mentions on his site is obviously correct.pagan holidays, false religions, etc., and I keep reminding myself what a little "leaven" will do, but I'm a little confused and concerned to say the least because I can't totally dismiss a lot of what this individual teaches because I have not researched it myself. Can you help Raymond? I'd appreciate any input you can provide.

 

  In Christ Jesus,

  Michael 

 

ANSWER:

 

Dear Michael:

 

I can see that you've done a lot of work.  I must begin by saying this one important thing to you.  I have a basic guide to give to you, the same ones that I followed all during my 30 some years of study in which the Holy Spirit guided me through all those years, and now, as a brother in Christ, I pass it on to you, so please allow the Holy Spirit to guide you:

 

#1 - FOLLOW the HOLY SPIRIT in ALL THINGS.  TRUST HIM ONLY but no other which includes man, man's religion or books of man.

#2 - STAY in the KJAV 1611 - it's the WORD OF THE LORD in English.

#3 - FOLLOW your heart in all cases, staying in what you know is right in your own heart and the Holy Spirit will correct you on any errors you make, simply trust HIM.

#4 - STAY in Grace, meaning no law, no works, no religion

#5 - BE a born again Christian (nothing else) who follows Jesus Christ

#6 - READ all things (even web sites) holding on to the truth in your heart (you'll know when it's truth) and throw out the bad (you'll also know when it's not the truth)

#7 - KEEP STUDYING, it works in the Holy Spirit which will show yourself approved

 

Michael, I judge FRUIT, NOT SOULS for the Lord shall do that, as He judges the heart of every man.  Know that the Holy Spirit shall guide you always, He knows you as He knows me.  We are one!  I'm sure you understand. 

 

I write by the Holy Spirit on my web page, it's His, not mine and with His help I have learned by it myself because He guides me.  As far as this nazarite web site, they are Jewish and false.  I have had others write me regarding this religion, but not the site.   Michael, you can take 20 different religions and none will have the same god, but they will each agree on 10 of the same teachings - yet none know Jesus Christ as their Saviour.

 

Jews wrote the Hebrew Old Testament their way.  Before it was ever written down, it was verbally taught.  It is not even possible to know exactly when all the books of the Jewish Scriptures were finally written and collected, even the Jews do not know this, and certainly not today's Jews. Some of the writings in the Jewish Scriptures may go back as far as 1100 B.C., but the process of bringing the books together probably didn't begin until around 400 B.C.  Jesus Christ replaced the O.T. by His death on the cross of love - period.  He became the law for us in love.

 

Michael, the first manuscripts (Originals) of the books that make up the Old Testament, even the New Testament, have never been found.  Now, there are Universities that claim to have copies of these manuscripts, even museums and libraries around the world.  I know that the Chester Beatty Papyri, one of the oldest fragments around contains some parts of the New Testament and is at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, MI.  If you get on the internet, it should show sites where you can actually see these fragments of copies, you will find them - I did, but they are scattered across the world, but you'll be able to see them for yourself as they are all stored under glass, just remember, these are only copies, not originals.  All these copies were hand written in monasteries and synagogues and was an unending job from one generation to the next generation.  These copies of copies are what you will see fragments of, not the originals, they are gone.  At one time I think (not sure) the Vatican claimed to have originals, but we know this could not be true, as they would have disintegrated long before there was ever Roman Catholicism.  Neither do the Jews have the originals, nor could they be restored to the originals as the nazarite site claims.  All they can do is change the words in Hebrew, to what they believe is like the originals.  Michael, be careful of this site, it is not Christian, but Jewish.  Continue reminding yourself what a little leaven will do.  Discern all things and all men, even me.  Stay in the Word and the Holy Spirit shall teach you.  You, my brother, are on the right road.  Stay strong in your marriage by being the head of your house and bringing up your children in the ways of the Lord.  They may not always stay the course, but each has a free will to either follow Christ or not.  In over one and a half years you have certainly come a long way, but now the hardest is in front of you because there will be many whom you love who will reject you because they have rejected Jesus Christ.  Never look back!  You shall be rewarded Michael for your diligence in His Word.  Stay strong in Christ and I'm here for you always.

 

Your brother in Jesus Christ,

Raymond

  (and Norma sends her love

 

QUESTION:      RE:  Wow!

 

What does Jesus say about pulling the plank from your own eye?  Be sure you are not passing judgment!  I am a Christian and a member of A.A. 

Mike

ANSWER:

 

Hello Mike:

 

Mike, if any member of AA truly believes in Jesus Christ as the ONLY way of salvation, then he would have trouble if he tried to witness of his faith in Jesus Christ to others in an AA meeting. There would at least be censorship and possibly expulsion and exclusion, and this I know as fact, as former AA members have confirmed such to me.

 

Passing judgment?  I do not pass judgment on any man, only the Lord Jesus Christ is Judge and He shall judge the soul.  I DO judge the teachings and dogma of AA which is nothing more than a false religion/cult of man.  And, AA is a religion/cult because A.A. suggests that a belief in a higher power (and making a decision to turn one's will and life over to the care of a "god" of one's understanding, per the third step) is necessary to achieve recovery.  But, which god?  Whose god?  Certainly NOT the true God of the Bible.  Those in AA say: "we can have any god".  I say "there is only ONE GOD, JESUS CHRIST", and He is NOT in, or any part of, AA.

 

One chapter in the "Big Book" entitled, "We Agnostics," attempts to deal with the subject of God, by making many references to God and spirituality and concludes with "When we drew near to him, he disclosed himself to us."  Again, which "god" are they drawing near to?  Certainly NOT the God of the Bible.  AA has no need of Jesus Christ, as He is NOT their God.

 

There is only one word used in the Bible to define the abuse of alcohol, and it is "drunkenness" (Luke 21:34 - "And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares,  For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.  Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all thee things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."), and the person, a "drunkard" - (I Cor. 6:9-10 - "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?  Be not deceived:..nor drunkards.shall inherit the kingdom of God.")  "Drunkenness" is NOT a disease; it is a SIN and clearly described as one of the works of the flesh and the Scripture forbids it.  (Ephesians 5:18 - "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;") 

 

As Christians we walk the hard road, fighting every day to stay on the right path.  As Christians we are filled with and live by the Spirit, always depending upon the resources and abilities of the Spirit whom God gives us by grace through faith.  But, if any choose to live according to the flesh, they are depending upon the resources and abilities of humanness, either their's, someone else's or a group of people (like AA, a religion, or a cult), taking the true God out of the picture, and becoming their own "god".  This, my friend, is idolatry!  If you believe that AA is good (can't live without it) and you are depending on it, then you have placed it over and above Jesus Christ.  Can you see the difference of "DEPENDING"?  There is a critical difference when it comes down to the "object" of one's dependence.  Mike, be controlled by the Spirit, not by AA.  Never say, "Hi, I'm Mike, I'm an alcoholic".  If you continue to say these things about yourself you are confessing to AA that as long as you live you are an alcoholic - same as a "drunkard" - and dependent upon them to get you through this.  Where is Jesus Christ in your life when you repeat over and over that you are an alcoholic?  I used to kneel and pray before statues and pictures when I was a Catholic - and that Mike, made me an idol worshipper - I prayed over and over and depended upon certain saints to answer my prayers, even asking them to take away certain sins - of course it never happened.  All must wake up to the truth!  I thank the Lord Jesus Christ that I woke up years ago to His truth.

 

Mike, as far as a Spiritual Awakening, there is only one valid "Spiritual Awakening", and that is that we should share with others the spiritual regeneration found ONLY in Jesus Christ, and any other "spiritual awakening" is simply a demonic deception which leaves men "spiritually dead."  If all AA members would only turn to the "one true God," the God of the Bible, the Word Jesus Christ, they would find, as God promised to all men in His Word:  "With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible." (Mark 10:27).

 

In Jesus Christ,

 

Raymond

 

MIKE'S RESPONSE TO RAYMOND:

 

I did not respond to you to debate.  What we see in AA is most people come in having had bad experiences in church.  (politics ,etc.)  I do understand your point and to some extent do agree.  But that is why it is important to have Christians like me and others who can talk of Jesus in meeting.  But people who come into AA need me there to talk about my understanding of God whom I will call Jesus Christ.  I have tried not going to meetings and just being a member of my Church.  God keeps directing me back.  Why would he not want a Christian in AA.  Seems to me a perfect place for his Love and Grace.  Which is equal to all.  I am a recovered Alcoholic.  Read the last paragraph or two of Dr Bobs story.  He says it If you are atheist or agnostic I fell sorry for you.  I disagree with you in that I believe that God gave hopeless drunks a way out.  I believe that when they worded it as you understand God it was no difference than churches of different denominations viewing the God and the Bible different than other denominations.  The thing most satifying to me is new person coming into AA hating God and Church watching them get saved and passing that on to others.  I do believe for many a spiritual awakening is simply coming to believe in Christ Jesus.  What a wonderful thing.  I know that many Church people including most of the members at my Church do not understand.  I have tried to explain it and simply can't get them to understand.  Trust me God is there.  It may not be how you believe but Jesus is there.  Where two or more or gathered in my name there I am. 

 

In Christ Jesus,

Mike N.

RAYMOND'S RESPONSE TO MIKE:

Hello again Mike:

 

It's NOT a matter of NOT going to AA meetings and JUST going to church - because religion has been all mixed up and intermingled with paganism and politics for years just as AA is intermingled with the same paganism and politics.

 

God would not keep directing you back into a false religion/cult such as AA - He doesn't want a real Christian in AA, as it is NOT a perfect place for His Love and Grace.  AA is simply "another" religion/cult with its own forms of piety, including surrender to a nebulous" higher power". This pious surrender does not constitute a "Christian root" that can justify Christians using and promoting AA as you are.

 

Dr. Bob and Bill Wilson started a cult and it's still going strong - Satan sees to it, as he saw to Dr. Bob's misgivings on AA - and Dr. Bob did not know the Word, Jesus Christ, he was not a Christian.   He gave the people of AA a false doctrine, inspired by demons and promulgated by men speaking lies in hypocrisy.

 

Mike, yes, God gave hopeless drunks a way out - THROUGH HIS SON JESUS CHRIST ONLY - NOT through AA, because people in AA do NOT want HIM, they only want "another god", a "higher power" that THEY can understand.  The wording of "as you understand god" is no different than all the denominations and religions put together in this entire world, so when you pray with these other alcoholics, whether reformed or not, which "god" are you praying to, YOURS OR THEIRS?  He cannot be in the midst where two or three are gathered together in the name of their "other gods" or "higher power".

 

You said: "The thing most satifying to me is new person coming into AA hating God and Church watching them get saved and passing that on to others."  Are you telling me that the new people joining AA are actually accepting Jesus Christ and then witnessing of Him to others in AA?  Or, are they just referring to another "god" and another "jesus" OF THEIR OWN CONCEPTION which just happens to work for them.  Sorry, Mike, I will never believe that Jesus is at your AA meetings because there are 2 or more gathered in his name (in the Name of Jesus Christ) - for they are not gathered in HIS name, but in the name of the devil.  The True Jesus of the Bible is not at your AA meetings in the midst of these people, at any time.  AA's textbook method of finding "god" is not the same as the Word (Jesus Christ).  If you say that you profess Jesus Christ, then I ask you to really take a look at the truth, as there can only be ONE truth.  And, what is not completely true is false.

 

Mike, I know that many members (ones claiming to be Christians) of AA believes that God can use AA to open hearts to receive Jesus - THIS IS NOT TRUE!  These people are still acting as "lords" of their own lives.  These would rather attend AA meetings then to go straight to Jesus Christ to be free of their sin.  John 8:36 - If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed."

 

In 1 Peter 2:24 -  "Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed."  After reading this Scripture, how could anyone who claims to be a Christian say that they could not be cured by our Lord, and tell Jesus Christ that His death and resurrection is not enough for them?  I'll tell you why, because they do not want to be set free from the bondage of Satan's lie, telling them that they will always have to deal with their alcoholism or drugs. You still call yourself an alcoholic, but a "recovered" one because AA doesn't want you to be healed of alcohol, but rather to be dependent upon them to keep you there.

 

Mike, for years I have been warning others about AA, false religions and "another" Jesus, and have observed many who listen for a while, then draw back from the warning messages that are clearly in the Word of the Lord.  These are the ones that have a desire to put on a respectable cloak that will hide their self-willed "unbelief" that shuts their Saviour out of their conscience, heart and life.

 

If a TRUE Christians' religion is false (and AA is a religion) he would leave it behind and not stay in it to reach others.  The Lord does NOT use the teachers of AA to lead others to Christ, just as He does not use teachers in false religions to bring others to Christ.  NO such thing - these are ".wells without water - For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clear escaped from them who live in error.  While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage." (2 Peter 2:17-19).  These are the board way (Matthew 7:13; 2 Peter 2:2) etc.

 

Jesus said: "It is written, man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4).  Mike, it is the Word of God that saves (Luke 8:11-12), and the same Word that must be believed (Romans 4:3).  But, if one is directed away from faith in the Word of God, whatever the issue, this can lead to the destruction of the soul (I Timothy 6:3-5), and one cannot throw in the teachings of the AA religion.  Mike, please be warned, because it only takes one lie to love and practice over and over to keep you outside an eternity in heaven.  There's only ONE WAY TO SALVATION - THAT'S JESUS CHRIST!  No man can reach God in any other way.  Amen!

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

RAYMOND'S RESPONSE IN BLACK TO MIKE'S QUESTIONS IN BLUE:

 

Dear Mike:  Your questions are in blue and my answers to you are in black below:

I am sorry that you like so many others have put cuffs on Gods power.  If the church and it's members would not have forced so many from church.  If not for this there might not be a need for a program of AA.  I personally take offence to any comparison to a cult.  I personally find the comparison based on ignorance.  How can you tell me he is not their.   

 

Mike, no man can put cuffs on God's power!  Where does your thinking come from?  AA?

 

The "Church" is people, not buildings or memberships in a denomination. 

 

I'm not trying to offend you, but  AA is no different than any other religion/cult because it teaches "false gods".  Jesus is NOT in religions, church buildings or cults.  Wake up!  I suppose you are referring to Jesus Christ (but don't know which one you mean) when you say "he".  No, He is NOT there when it is without the cross and without the Lord Jesus Christ, who said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me" (John 14:6).   Rather than faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and Him crucified, AA is a false mandate to save one's self, very similar to churches of men.

 

The Scriptures reveal that "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."  (John 4:24).

''AA believes that God can use AA to open hearts to receive Jesus - THIS IS NOT TRUE!  These people are still acting as "lords" of their own lives.''    How did you come to this conclusion?  So I Guess the next thing you will tell me is that my salvation is not real.  Have you ever attended an AA meeting? 

Mike, no man can reach God the Father unless they have Jesus Christ the Mediator by His Spirit.  How is it that you claim to know Jesus Christ and remain in a false religion/cult such as AA?  What makes you believe that AA is being used of God to open hearts to receive Jesus?  AGAIN, NOT TRUE!!!

 

AA picked up the idea of surrendering to a "higher power", but they have done so without Jesus Christ and without the whole counsel of God.  So, you see Mike, when a person is not clear about the Gospel, as to WHO Jesus Christ is and what He did to save sinners, that person is not presenting a true gospel message, but a worldly message that DOES NOT SAVE ANYONE.  AA can NOT save anyone or lead anyone to Jesus Christ.

 

Have you ever known anyone who life has been saved in AA.  There are millions all over the world.   How can you say God does not want a Christian in aa.  That has to be the most frightening thing I have ever heard.  Did he speak to you and tell you this? 

 

When you speak of a life that has been saved in AA, are you speaking of their physical life, or their spiritual life?  Certainly, you cannot be speaking of a "spiritual life", salvation.   I know no man that was spiritually saved by, or in, AA (impossible and AGAINST the Word of God) nor do I know a man whose "physical life" was saved by AA.  You are putting too much emphasis on AA doing the saving here and they CAN NOT SAVE ANYONE, not only that, it is totally UNSCRIPTURAL on your part. 

 

Mike, one's salvation is certain because it does not depend on you, me, or AA.  God's salvation is that HE does it ALL.  Again, NOT AA, NOT Mike and NOT me!  It depends solely on the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ.  Only by the mercy of God is anyone saved; there is NOTHING AA, you or I can do to earn our own salvation or anyone else's.  The ONLY thing that saves us is the Grace of God through faith in the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD AND HIS FINISHED WORK ON THE CROSS.  NO membership in churches, AA, a denomination, NOT baptism, NOT by good works, NOT by refraining from sin - NONE OF THESE THINGS SAVES!  But,  ".by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost: Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life." (Titus 3:5-7)   Jesus Christ saved us, regenerated us and renewed us.  There should be no boasting by any man of what he can do or has done to save another, therefore, AGAIN, AA cannot save anyone.

 

Mike, you are using your AA recovery group as a replacement for the "body of Christ", the true "church", those "born again" of Jesus Christ who are "believers". 

 

Did Jesus establish the 12 Step program?  NO!  He gave us His Word by which He speaks to all those that are His, so that we would not be ".carried about with divers and strange doctrines.that the heart be established with grace" as it so says in Hebrews 13:9.

 

AA saves lives, puts families back together.  It helps people that the church and people like you would not invite in your home.  It gets people on a path to God.  To Jesus.  How many people do you think go to AA that worship these other Gods you keep referring to? 

 

First of all, a Christian believes that God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit, while the AA paradigm models any "god", "any thing", or "any one" as "A higher power" or "a Power greater than ourselves"...of which AA does not mean the self-existent Triune God of the Bible.  

 

AA CAN NOT SAVE LIVES as you say, or "get people on a path" to the Triune God -  AA has false gods or demons.  AA tells the Alcoholic to worship God "as we conceive of Him". This is the very thing the Bible does not want anyone to do.  You claim to be a Christian, but whose side are you on?  AA's or the Word of God - as you defend AA with more respect than you have thus far the Scripture.  Every man that walks into AA soon finds out that he is worshipping something - and believe me, it isn't the triune God that is worshiped. Mike, true Christians cannot have two masters - as Jesus said:  "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other: or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.  Ye cannot serve God and mammon." (Matthew 6:24).

 

You know that my experience has shown me at Church that you people speak a good game but can't follow through.  I have seen pastors parade the addict around the front of the church claiming deliverance and salvation.  Only to see these people fall.  And when I say fall I mean they die and go to prison.  Tell me why?  Because you leave church and forget about that person.  You don't teach how to clean up his past.  You don't want to be seen with that person.  You are not willing to take time teach him how not to live the way he has been living.  If I may proper discipleship in the church is just not there. 

 

I'm not a pastor, nor am I a member of any religion or denomination, nor would I ever parade anyone around claiming deliverance and salvation.  You evidently haven't read all of my web page - http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/articles.html  Proper discipleship is not in a "church building", nor is it in AA as you believe.  If you truly want to reach these people about Jesus Christ, then take them out of AA and begin a fellowship at home with those who truly are seeking and want to follow Christ.  As far as you teaching that person how to live if he/she is in Christ, the Holy Spirit will do the teaching and guiding and the Word will show them Christ's way, the narrow road. 

 

Again, salvation isn't parading in front of a church building, nor is it when someone says; I've been saved, I'm a Christian - even those who do not know Jesus Christ claim to be Christian.  You, Mike, can't teach any man how to clean up his past - if they truly know Jesus Christ - HE CLEANS UP THEIR PAST - you cannot.  The Word (Son of God, Jesus Christ) says: "I can of mine own self do nothing".  (John 5:30)   The true Christian who knows Jesus won't die being an alcoholic or put in a prison as you say.  You go off on a tangent about me going to church - you truly do not understand what "church" means - I don't go to church, I am the "church" - part of His "body of believers".  You do not understand at all. 

 

Stop bashing Gods work.  You may one day find your self looking in instead of out.  Remember we all have to stand and be judged.  What will you do if he asked you why you spent more time trying to disprove his work instead of praying for it? 

 

I do not bash God's work, nor do I disprove HIS WORK - it is the Holy Spirit that works in souls.  He taught me well.  You need Him to teach you!

Do you not know that Satan is the arch-counterfeiter?  In a word, by a process of imitation he is aiming to neutralize the Work and Words of Christ. Therefore, as Christ has a Gospel (i.e.Word of God, the Bible), Satan has a gospel also, and it's in AA (i.e. Big Book), the latter being a counterfeit of the former. So closely does the gospel of Satan resemble that which it parodies, multitudes of the unsaved are deceived by it.  You had best study to show yourself approved, as we all must do!  Also; "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." (Colossians 2:8)

 

The big book of AA only teaches you to get out of your selfishness and to help others.  That spiritual help is the only answer from freedom. 

 

Mike, do you actually believe that one grows spiritually by having a steady diet of psychological self-help advice from AA's Big Book and that this book is the only answer that gives an alcoholic freedom? 

 

The Spiritual help you refer to is NOT of the Lord, but of the devil and many false gods - burn the book.  You need a new heart and the Holy Spirit.

 

A true Christian's hunger and thirst for spiritual food is found ONLY in the Word of God, the bible, and His Word is what separates the wheat from the tares. 

 

Jesus Christ said, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (John 3:3).  It is not enough to reply, "I belong to a church; I am a member of AA & follow the Big Book that gives me spiritual help."  Thousands of so-called Christians show none of the signs of being born again which the Scriptures have given us-many listed in the First Epistle of John, you need to read it. 

 

My whole point to you was that that simple wording has brought more people to Christ than most churches.  I am sorry if you find this hard to believe.  To most addict and alcoholics who have been judged and never felt love at church this is there only hope.  

 

THE TRUTH OF THE WHOLE POINT IS: THE WORD OF THE LORD is simple wording, use that, not your thoughts on what to say to people or the Big Books wording that leads no man to the true Christ.  Again, I have nothing to do with "churches" of men.  I teach JESUS CHRIST AS THEIR ONLY HOPE!!!!!!!  - YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO MAN'S CHURCH OR AA TO FIND HIM!!!!!!!!!  HE DIED FOR THEM, HE LOVES THEM MORE THAN YOU, I, OR ANY PERSON IN AA COULD LOVE THEM.

 

Mike, please listen, TRUE LOVE to Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit's work (not man's) and can only be placed in one's heart by HIM.  You seem to forget (if you really knew) that NO man can feel loved unless he knows and loves Jesus Christ.   I can understand why addicts and alcoholics don't feel loved at a church building, I wouldn't either, but AA isn't their "only hope" as you say, again, you are emphasizing AA as their salvation - it is NOT - JESUS CHRIST IS THEIR ONLY HOPE!

 

Do you have any idea of the magnitude of the suffering the families go through with alcoholics and addicts?

 

Please, I've had enough members of my own family who were alcoholics and have known many addicts.  Many times I've seen those who will not pay heed to what they are doing to themselves and their loved ones - I most assuredly know because I was a cop and had to clean up the mess after them (beaten wives and kids, auto accidents, suicides and murders).

 

Do you really believe that YOU KNOW what MAGNITUDE means?  You can't even begin to imagine.  I've had many addicts and alcoholics in my bible study that came to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ and walked with Him, and these came out of AA, never to return again - yes, they were members of AA, but understood what AA was, and knew that they could never have found Christ in AA, because AA offers only a false god.

 

For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. (2 Corinthians 7:10).

You keep reaping the same thing that you know as well as I do that the only truth is through Jesus.  As a Christian this I know. 

 

As a Christian, one cannot help but reaping the same truth over and over - that they need a New Heart in Jesus Christ - AND MEAN IT!  Certainly you cannot be embarrassed that the ONLY truth comes through Jesus?  I can be wrong, but Jesus, the Word, is NEVER wrong. 

 

How many times does the Word of God repeat itself, that we should: live by the Word, Grow by the Word, Become glad by the Word, Become strong by the Word - these things are repeated over and over, just as Jesus said: "Follow me" many times.  Nevertheless, it is a problem to many people, whether saved or not saved.  To me, the Bible is the living Word of God by the Son through His Spirit - it is the record of God's mighty deeds to show us HIS salvation through His Son, Jesus Christ, so I may repeat the truth over and over a hundred times or more to the same person.   

 

MY last question to you is this.  Where are the people who have tried over and over to clean up there lives go if they won't go back to church?  Because I know a lot of churches where there is no GOD. 

 

My answer to you is this - THEY MUST GO TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST ONLY BY HIS HOLY SPIRIT BECAUSE HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN CURE THE SIN PROBLEM IN THEIR LIVES - and if anyone looks anywhere else, they will perish!  You are right - you won't find "JESUS CHRIST" in today's churches, and certainly not in AA.  God doesn't deal with man, and the only way to reach God is through the Mediator, Jesus Christ by His Spirit.

 

I wouldn't tell any man to go back to a church - that sounds like Billy Graham - who sends people back to their own churches, regardless of denomination or cult - when the real Jesus isn't even in those churches.  The problem is, these people continue to remedy things in their own way, NOT by a turnabout, where they give way to the grace and mercy of the Lord Jesus Christ, but by a religious performance, even like that of an external pretense of seeking a "higher power" in AA. 

 

What good is the "12 Steps" and "Big Book" if it does not involve the heart, where there is no change in the life?  I'm speaking spiritual here, THE HEART, where it all begins.  Only when there is a change in the heart will we see the sign of true faith in Jesus Christ which is obedience and service to Him - then the person who believes is healed, they are no longer an alcoholic, but a member of the "body of Christ", HIS "church".  A person can go to man's church faithfully and to AA meetings daily, but these outward expressions do not necessarily stop the person from drinking or doing drugs. 

 

Stop bashing Gods work.  Take the time instead to pray for these people.  God's power will not be handcuffed because of you ignorance or you close minded ideas of where he is.  Because again my Bible clearly states grace falls equally over all of us!     

 

I don't bash God's work - His work is NOT in AA - but it is in the WORD of which I give TRUTH by His Word, it could not be any plainer.  I love the Lord's work and He does it much better than any man.

 

There is no help IN man himself.  No man can heal himself or heal others.  My prayers for the alcoholic won't change him.  Man needs more than his habits changed.  Remember, it must be a heart change, and that change can only occur in a relationship between him and with the living God, Jesus Christ, by His Spirit. 

 

This is the good news of the gospel, the Lord Jesus Christ shedding His blood, so that our sin can be forgiven through repentance of those sins and acceptance of Jesus Christ as Saviour, thus, enabling Him to give us the gift of righteousness so that our HEARTS will be changed.  This is HIS GRACE which is given freely to those who come to HIM, not to AA where He does NOT reign as Saviour over those sinners.  God's grace is sufficient in the midst of trying circumstances (2 Cor. 12:9-10).  God's grace enables us to cope with difficulties that can be overwhelming when approached through human strength alone, whether by one person or an organization.  One cannot mix AA's doctrines with salvation in Christ, because AA's doctrines are opposing and blaspheming the grace of God.  Scripture says that without faith it is impossible to please God - Hebrews 11:6.  It's also true that without faith in Jesus Christ it is impossible to deal with one's behavioral problems (I Thess. 5:8)

 

Mike, remember, no man can be a believer in Jesus Christ, but he that despairs of righteousness by his own doings.  But the righteousness of our Lord Jesus Christ is that which brings in a pardon, and a title to eternal life, to those that had forfeited all.  "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17).

 

I'm here to give you truth from His Word, His Word saves and His Word is Jesus Christ.

 

Drink HIM like He told the woman at the well: "If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink: thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water."  (John 4:10)  "Whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. (John 4:14)

 

Thank you.  In His (Jesus) blessed name.  Amen! 

Raymond

 


QUESTION:    Question about losing salvation

Brother Raymond,

First, I would like to say I agree with 99 percent of the things you have written on your website. They are encouraging and they have been the things I have been saying, which led to the "church" I was attending to kick me out. I know the church is us, and that we have no need of a teacher.

But I need clarification on your stance that once saved always saved. You say you do not believe that. You (correct me if I am wrong) state that a christian who commits adultery or commits sin is in danger of hell. I am not picking a fight with you, but does that mean you are sinless? Have you never committed adultery as a christian? Matthew 5:28  But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Have you never done this? If not, could you tell me how to be sinless and what scripture you use to tell other christians they must be sinless, because the last time I checked, the only requirement for heaven was to believe in the death, burial, and ressurection of God's only begotten SON.....and that works of the flesh, including trying to be sinless, was but filthy rags in God's sight.

Hebrews 11:6  But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Only by faith do we please Him. 2 Timothy 2:13  If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. This states that even if we believe not, Jesus cannot deny himself (the Holy Sprit within us).

Help me if I am wrong,

at your service,

Larry

http://hisemptygrave.com/

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello Larry:  My answer in response to your e-mail is in blue below

Thank you for your kind words!  You are correct in believing that we have no need of any man teaching us, for if we belong to Jesus, He gave us His Holy Spirit who teaches and guides us in all things (John 14:26).  We both agree!  Yes, we are the "church", amen!

But I need clarification on your stance that once saved always saved. You say you do not believe that. You (correct me if I am wrong) state that a christian who commits adultery or commits sin is in danger of hell. I am not picking a fight with you, but does that mean you are sinless?  Have you never committed adultery as a christian? Matthew 5:28  But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Have you never done this? If not, could you tell me how to be sinless and what scripture you use to tell other christians they must be sinless, because the last time I checked, the only requirement for heaven was to believe in the death, burial, and ressurection of God's only begotten SON.....and that works of the flesh, including trying to be sinless, was but filthy rags in God's  sight.

Larry, first of all, I am not sinless, for there was only ONE sinless, Jesus Christ!  God used His only begotten son who knew no sin, to pay the ultimate price - death - to pay for the new birth for all mankind who choose to believe. "For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly." (Romans 5:6).  The Word alone reminds us of the fact:  "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." (I John 1:8).  Larry, ALL have sinned - the Scripture says:  "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23).  Sin is a problem with which we all must deal with because of its consequences which are devastating.  The Word says:  "For the wages of sin is death".  (Romans 6:23).  The greatest consequence of sin is total separation from the Lord for all eternity.

 

No, I do not believe in "once saved always saved".  No fight, just an explanation as to why a Christian who commits adultery is in danger of hell.  And, I mean, not necessarily will go to hell, but is in danger of hell, just what it says.  There are many examples in Scripture of how this happens and to what a person goes through to reach a dangerous position of possibly losing his salvation.

 

Let's look at adultery - God's Word is consistent with the definition of an adulterer - one who commits adultery.  Pretty plain - hence, any person who commits one or more acts of adultery is an adulterer.  Above, you quoted Matthew 5:28, Jesus said: "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."  I'm sure we both understand this Scripture, it's easily understood.  I am certainly not a slave to sin, and by God's grace, I examine myself daily, asking the Holy Spirit to reveal those things, or attitudes which are against the Word and confess what I've done, and I thank the Lord for His goodness and am forgiven.  And, yes, I have done this, but also have repented of my sin and again am forgiven.  Even though a man may not have committed adultery (the act itself), entertaining lustful thoughts, in itself, is also judged as adultery.  Simple and clear!

 

Let's look at another Scripture . In Matthew 5:22 we see what else Jesus said:  "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."  Jesus emphasized that there were some who were in danger of hell fire.  This is also clear.

Larry, for instance, there are many people who believe that if they are truly saved there is no way they could possibly lose his/her salvation, no matter how bad or evil they are, and no matter how much they continue to live in sin - this is called by many "once saved always saved".   These people believe that if they went out and murdered another person they could still enter heaven - but the Word says to all: "Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him" - I John 3:15 - that Scripture is pretty clear - even a man who hates his brother is a murderer, and no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.  We should agree with this Scripture. 

Sin is sin - it separates us from our Lord.  All must repent - sin no more and forgiveness sets in.  Just as John spoke to the saved brethren (Christians) and said:  "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.  And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" (I John 2:1).  Amen, that advocate is Jesus Christ!

SIN - WHAT IS SIN - ".for whatsoever is not of faith is sin." (Romans 14:23).  Is not "unbelief" at the root of all sin?  It is ONLY through faith in Jesus Christ, knowing who He is and what He has promised us in His Word that we can overcome sin.  Yes, our dead works ARE contrary to the Word of God.  Paul explains to the Galatian church what these are: ".the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleaness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." (Gal. 5:19-21).  This is very plain, telling us that those who practice these works of the flesh shall not inherit the kingdom of God

 

SIN FOR THE CHRISTIAN - The Word speaks to every Christian - we should not continue to sin daily, in word, deed or thought, by omission or commission. But, Larry, don't miss the point, it is not that a Christian can not sin, or that we don't sometimes stumble and sin or even deliberately sin on rare occasions, but our lives should not be characterized by sin. Let's keep looking.

 

WHAT DOES A CHRISTIAN DO WHEN HE SINS - REPENTChristians who sin must repent, pray, and confess their sins for forgiveness. Jesus Christ is their Advocate with the Father -  As Peter told Simon to repent and pray that his sin might be forgiven in Acts 8:22-24; as John told the believers in 1 John 1:6-10 -  As "He is the propitiation for our sins" 1 John 2:2.  Jesus sent the Apostles to preach that people should repent - Mark 6:12.  God commands all men everywhere to repent - Revelation 3:19: "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten.  Therefore be zealous and repent." Larry, the Christian who sins needs to repent and pray.  Period!

 

FOR MANY CHRISTIANS - A PROCESS OF FALLING AWAY -  When one accepts Jesus as Saviour it is a one time event, but repentance is a lifestyle.  While each of us has forgiveness in Christ even though we fall short of perfection, we are walking on thin ice if we allow ourselves to slowly grow into a "lukewarm" or "backslidden" state by allowing sins in that we believe the Lord will tolerate and overlook.  Also, a Christian doesn't get into the state of "lukewarm" or "backslid" overnight.  And, it is ONLY a Christian who can get into a "lukewarm" or "backslid" state.     Here we see Jesus speaking to the Laodicean CHURCH: "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."  (Rev. 3:16).  Jesus also says: "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten; be zealous therefore, and repent." (Rev. 3:19).

 

CHRISTIANS CAN BACKSLIDE - Some go through a period of spiritual dullness or disobedience.  You won't find the word "backslide" in the New Testament.  Yet, a true Christian will know in their heart when they are in that state because the Lord will discipline them - "For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.  If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?  But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Furthermore, we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?  For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.  Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby."  (Hebrews 12:6-11).   We also see Paul speaking to the "church" about their wickedness in immorality and what he said must be done - "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus" (I Corinthians 5:5).  Also see I John 5:16.  Many Christians have written to me and knew that at one time or another they had backslid - but they also knew that their heart was pricked by the Holy Spirit and they were chastened by the Lord as a true son would be.  The Word is clear.  In 2nd Peter 3:17-18 we see Peter warning the believers not to fall - "Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness."

 

Larry, OUR ETERNAL LIFE is the life that Jesus Christ gave to us when we were "born again".  Whether a person possess it for a week, a year, ten or twenty years, or forever does not change the fact that this kind of life that Jesus gives is eternal.  No dispute here!  But, by and of one's own free will he/she can turn their back on Christ, no longer trusting or believing in Jesus Christ for their salvation.  Oh?  Now, any person who believed and walked Christ every day of his life for 20 years, yet turned away from Him, no longer having a desire to live according to the Word because they said they were once saved always saved and will go to heaven when they die regardless of what they now believe today, as you said Larry "the only requirement for heaven was to believe in the death, burial, and resurrection of God's only begotten SON"  Do you believe that this person is still saved, as he fulfilled the requirement 20 years ago as you so state here?  I do not!  The Word says:  "Ye shall know them by their fruits." (Matthew 7:16). 

 

Hebrews 11:6  But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.


Only by faith do we please Him. 2 Timothy 2:13  If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. This states that even if we believe not, Jesus cannot deny himself (the Holy Sprit within us).

Help me if I am wrong,

at your service,

 

Larry

 

http://hisemptygrave.com/

 

Absolutely, I agree 100% that it is ONLY by faith we do please Him, because a believer is saved by grace, through faith.  Those who are saved by grace, through faith will be faithful to the end (not always perfectly, of course - that's where grace comes in).

 

Now, to 2 Timothy 2:12 - Paul wrote this to believers in Christ and told them that "IF we deny him, he also will deny us".  This is opposite of the teaching of once saved always saved.  In the context of the truth that HE WILL DENY BELIEVERS IF THEY DENY HIM we see that even IF a believer falls away from faith and no longer believes, Jesus still remains faithful and cannot deny Himself, meaning that He will be faithful TO DENY ANYONE THAT DENIES HIM, FOR He cannot deny Himself. 

 

Hopefully, you can understand that we can indeed lose our salvation.  But, keep living for Christ and being obedient to His Word and then one will endure to the end.  As long as we remain in Christ, being truly saved, then we do not have to worry about losing our salvation, I certainly don't, as I am encouraged daily by the Word that verifies His truth.  I believe it all!  Larry, if you have any questions, please write again.  I want to help in any way that I am able to help and love a brother or anyone who wants to know the truth, as my desire is serving the Lord first, always.

 

And finally,  "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 7:21).

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

QUESTION:  Where's 1 Titus 2:5?

 

Dear Sir:

I saw the following statement on your website:

What does it take to wake you up? If you need facts, read you own books, they have truck loads of errors.  Do you want to know, or do you really care? This is more than the deity of Jesus. This is about Jesus the CHRIST. Without Him no one has hope or salvation and shall not see truth. He is the only MEDIATOR between God and man - "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" - I Titus 2:5. Can't you see it? I don't care what language you use.

Can you please point out where I Titus 2:5 is found in the Bible? I've tried looking it up-but couldn't find it.


ANSWER:

 

 

Dear Jean:

 

Oops!  Thanks Jean!  It is 1 Timothy 2:5 - I hand write everything, and my wife does my typing, and I may have had I Ti 2:5, and she just picked it up as Titus - sorry about the error.  I would truly appreciate it if you could please tell me where you found the error (what article) (Questions & Answers or E-mail and Comments on my web page http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/articles.html  and my wife or daughter will correct the error as soon as we hear from you.  Thanks for the consideration, much appreciated!

 

In Jesus Christ

Raymond

 

PLEASE NOTE:  Never heard from Jean so if anyone else sees the error, please let us know where it is, in which article. 


Thank you! 
Raymond


QUESTION:

 

HELLO RAYMOND,

 

i have a question and i hope you can answer it..See my dad is a methodist and he was brought up with belives like you cant take the holy supper, unless you are clean...but my argument with him is that we are not perfect, so i believe that you can take it...because everyday the Lord is cleansing us..right???i mean if i take it and i go and sin after wards i know their could be ugly consequences, but if i'm trying to be good and live by the Lord's word than its okay to take holy super...my father says no because he doesnt feel clean all the way..he has redicated his life to the Lord and has been faithfully serving the Lord, for a year now...please explain this to both of us.

 

thank you,

ariadne s.

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello sister Ariadne:

 

There is NO "holy supper" today, because it is a Catholic religious hoax and each religion of man has also adopted their own interpretation of the "Lord's Supper".  Many religions believe that the Eucharist or Holy Supper is a means of receiving Grace - NOT TRUE. Many religions believe that Eucharist or Holy communion is a Sacrament instituted by Christ - NOT TRUE  I do not believe that Jesus intended to establish an institutional doctrine for perpetual observance when He ate the supper with His Apostles, as the supper was a holy day (Passover) of the Jew.  It was celebrated by Christ with His Apostles just prior to His death.  When studying the New Testament, one would never find a concept of a "sacrament" instituted by Christ.  Jesus was a Jew, His Apostles were Jews, and the earliest Christians were also Jews.  Jesus on the cross released us from all rules fulfilling all laws and ordinances. 

 

In Jesus Christ we are whole and clean and our robes are all white.  It is our sins that break our fellowship with Christ, but once we repent we are forgiven.  Tell your Dad that we cannot clean ourselves, for any one who tries to enter the eternal "wedding feast" by one's own efforts seeks to wear filthy rags to the feast, but will be cast out into outer darkness.  This is why we confess our sins and rid ourselves of our filthy rags; and that is why we rejoice in the forgiveness of Jesus Christ, who clothes us with white robes for the eternal wedding feast that He has promised every Christian bought by His blood.

 

As Christians we walk in the Holy Spirit who is our power to the path of Christ.  Living Jesus Christ (in our hearts) is the supper of our Lord inwardly, where He lives daily - just as Jesus said: ".I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." (Revelation 3:20), and if we open the doors of our hearts to receive Him, He WILL come in, according to His promise to us.  Read the article on my web page - "Breaking Bread (Last Supper)", it may help you, at http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/breakbread.htm

 

Any more questions, write again.

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond


QUESTION:
 

 

well am just wondering i have tatttos on my body. will god forgive me for the tattos that i put on my body?

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello Norberto:

 

Thank you for writing!  I will answer your question with two answers. 

 

IF you accepted Jesus Christ as your Saviour and you had tattoos put on your body BEFORE you accepted Him and you have repented of all your sin, YES, He has forgiven you.

 

IF you accepted Jesus Christ as your Saviour and you had tattoos put on your body AFTER you accepted Him, and have NOT repented, you have a problem with the flesh, therefore, repent NOW before it is too late.  In other words, sometimes people get tattoos for their own glory, therefore they are NOT walking in the Spirit, but in the carnality of the flesh.  No man should glorify the flesh because he makes himself an enemy of Christ.  It is sin, simply repent!

 

Norberto, it doesn't matter what the sin is or was, we all need to repent and follow Jesus Christ.  If we love Him, we will obey Him.  (John 14:15).  Jesus said: "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." (John 14:23-24). 

 

If you have any other question, write again.

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond


QUESTION:   old testament vs new testament

 

Hello. I need so much help. I need to know what the difference is between the old and new testament. If you could tell me a little about it I would appreicate that. I have a writing assignment due on Tuesday to tell the difference and why, but GOD honest truth I do not know. My mother n law is a Christian I do not want her to know that I do not understand. So please help me.

 

Thank you,

Jennifer

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello Jennifer:

 

I have some articles on my web page that will help you, there's no sense for me to repeat them, so read what I have already written - these are:

 

http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/Understandingtheoldvsnew.htm

 

http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/otvsnt.htm

 

http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/godcovenant.htm

 

http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/churchage.htm

 

If you don't know Jesus Christ as your Saviour you will not understand these articles.  Turn to the Lord Jesus Christ and repent of sin for salvation today, tomorrow may be too late.  I'm here for you if you have questions and need to know more about salvation in Christ, please write, for eternity is forever with no end and Jesus is about to return any day soon for those that are His.

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond


QUESTION:

 

You're a legalist!  Which  Baptist? Just because you claim to be NON DENOMINATIOAL means nothing. Mormons declare themselves restorers of the Gospel. Protestantism is any church that rebukes Catholic dogma. You're against Catholics and Baptist as well as Jews, apparently. You sound exactly like L. Ray Smith. I noticed your name has the L and the Ray in Raymond who also claims to be a disciple.  Are you leaving out the Smith? May be coincidental. Your dogmatic approach is judgmental and deserves scrutiny. Good day...James.........A believer in the Only Begotten Son who said, ''I am the I am''! Jesus, King of Kings and Lord of Lords!

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello James:

 

Thank you for writing!  I am neither a legalist, a Baptist, nor do I claim to be a non denominational member, if that's what you mean by non denominational.  If you had read my Faith Statement: http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/faithsta.htm  you would know exactly what I believe and know who I am.  I am certainly not L. Ray Smith, but Raymond Louis Laginess!  You only state your name as James, so who are you?  James Johnson, Jr. perhaps?  You say you are a believer in Jesus, King of Kings and Lord of Lords?  I also am a believer in Jesus Christ, for He ONLY is my Saviour and ONLY way to heaven.  Like I said above, read my Faith Statement on my web page.

 

I am against no man, but am against any religion which puts man into bondage.  Each man must make up his own mind as to whom or what he will follow, religion of man, or the Bible which is God's Word to us today.  I have chosen to follow God's Word given us, and not a man.

 

A believer In Jesus Christ only,

Raymond

 

 

QUESTION:     meaning

 

I teach a Bible Study and one of my students wanted to know what the phrase a "two edged sword: meant.  I think I know what the answer is but I need a comment to back up my thinking. 

Thank you.


ANSWER:

 

Hello mnf:

 

Thanks for writing!  "Two-edged sword" is a metaphor, referring to the effectiveness of the truth of the Word of God.  It cuts and divides.  Here are a few samples.. As in Hebrews 4:12 - ".the Word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart".  In Revelation 1:16 and Revelation 2:12;16 we see the sword as an instrument of divine justice - "And he (Christ) had in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword" and Jesus said: "These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges" and  (2:16) "Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth."   In Ephesians 6:17 we also see "the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:" and is a part of the Christian's "whole armor". 

 

Have a good Bible study and may the Holy Spirit establish His Word in the good soil of your students hearts, providing the foundation for their spiritual life, growth and victory.

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond 

 

QUESTION:

  

Hello Brother Raymond:


I was just wondering, what will the Lord Jesus do to a christian, for punishment, according to Ezekiel  3:18, in the old testament, if he fails to warn another person of hell?

 

In Jesus Christ
                                                                             
John

 

ANSWER:

 

Hi Brother John:

 

Ezekiel was a Prophet of God, Who appointed him as such, His "watchman", a spiritual watchman which was derived from God alone and not from other men.  In Ezekiel3:16:21 we see that he was sent only to one people, the house of Israel, God's house and his own, and given instructions to speak to and encourage those who appear to be righteous, and to warn the wicked.  The responsibility for the blood of others is an Old Covenant expression for failing to warn and reprove others of the danger their souls are in.  But, let's take a look at the New Covenant that we are under to see what it has to say about warning another person of hell.

 

According to the New Covenant that we are under, let's look at Acts 20:26-31 - where Paul comments to the elders of the Church of Ephesus and charges them with the responsibility of the flock.  Just as God charged Ezekiel the Prophet to be His watchman over His flock, the House of Israel and those of the house of Ezekiel, so also does Paul charge these elders in the church of Ephesus (those who are put in charge over the Lord's flock by the Holy Spirit) to watch over the souls - the sheep.  Paul speaks to them of their responsibilities: "Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men.  For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.  For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.  Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears." (Acts 20:26-31).

Let's also take a look at Hebrews 13:17 where Paul tells the members of the "church" to: "Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you."  Here we see the opposite of when Paul spoke to Elders of the "church in the above paragraph, but this time we see Paul speaking to the "body of Christ".

 

Now, in churches today we see just the reverse of these things - we see the ministers, pastors, priests, bishops, etc. who stand before their flock every Sunday and never tell them about Jesus Christ and what He did for them so that they might be saved, or how to repent of their sin, etc.  If the men in the pulpits are NOT preaching Jesus Christ or warning their people of hell, then these men will answer to the Lord for NOT taking charge of the flock, not only for not telling them in love, but not even in rebuke.  Today, the watchmen in the church are asleep and Satan has an easy time in deceiving the flock.  If these ministers, elders, pastors etc. are not faithful in warning and rebuking their flock (those under their trust) of sin, or NOT telling them about Jesus Christ and His salvation, the blood of those that perish through their carelessness will be required at their hand. 

 

John, no man can save another man's soul, but as ambassadors, witnesses and disciples for Jesus Christ, we ALL have a responsibility to tell others of Jesus Christ and what He has done for them, us and ALL men so that they could also come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.  We plant the seed and the Holy Spirit does the rest.  We also have a responsibility to warn the righteous man not to turn back to his sinful ways by taking part in the things of the world.  John, I know that you and I would have everyone in the world saved, but we both know that isn't what will be, even though Christ died and shed His blood for ALL men, there are still those who reject the Word.  John you continue telling people of Jesus and what He did for them, but do not be weary when they reject you and do not want to hear it, because they aren't rejecting you per se, they are rejecting Jesus Christ.

 

Stay strong brother in Jesus Christ!

 

Raymond

 

 

 QUESTION:

 

Hi,

 

This is a very good page.  I grew up believing the Catholic lies, I have been a "True Christian" for the last 3 years, following the truth of God's word and being saved by God's Grace through faith in Christ.

 

I would like to email a copy of your page to family member, since I still have many loved ones that are lost in the Catholic lies.

 

Please let me know if its ok to email them a copy of your page?  Keep up the good work.

 

Isabel

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello Isabel:

 

Thank you for your kind words!  It is great to meet another sister in Christ which is always a blessing.  You keep on keepin' on, walking in your faith until Jesus calls us out from this world, and it will will be very soon.  The time on this earth is short and it is good if you can reach as many as possible with the truth of His Word.  My prayers are for your strength in Him - the Holy Spirit will take care of the rest. 

 

You may copy or e-mail any article of mine - everything on my site was given me freely by His Spirit. 

 

Again, thank you for writing and many blessings to you in His blessed name.

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

QUESTION:

 

Someone wanted to convert me today and told me something that even I didn't know, apparently the devil doesn't exist anymore, he was destroyed by
Jesus...   So he gave me the URL of his particular denomination and I found this:

http://www.growingingracespanish.com/studies/vol3/devil_doesnt_exist.html

Now, since the bible is God's word, then this must be true as the verses say it is true and all mainstream christians (maybe even you) have lived in fear
of a being that is no more.  Anyway, check it out, read it and tell me what you think, is that person right or wrong, or is he... decieved???

Bye.

William Garcia.

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello William:

 

The web site you recommend is by this man who thinks himself above all, placing himself as an Apostle appointed by God - when Jesus Christ Himself chose His 12 Apostles plus choosing Paul on the road to Damascus, and Jose isn't one of them.  Here is a problem; he believes that you can only get edification of God through himself - Jose, as he says: "The edification of God in your life, through the Apostle Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda"  William, I would be very suspicious of a person who claims to be an Apostle appointed by God  (which is a lie) and you should want to know more as to the person's doctrine whether it be sound or not. An "apostle" by definition, is one who has seen the risen Lord or was chosen directly by Christ.  No one meets those qualifications today.  You had better run, run from this man and his false teachings.

 

I speak these things to you in love, how can you be so easily removed from His Word - It is clearly stated in scripture that Satan is the "prince of this world".  William, do you not study to show yourself approved?  You are either going to follow Jesus Christ or a false teacher and Satan - make up your mind - and yes, I'm being hard on you in love.  We have gone over this and over this - and I haven't given up on you - but you must make a commitment to Christ, as you cannot have both - make a choice as to who you will follow, the Word (Jesus Christ) or a man. Period!   I don't even want you to follow me or anything I say, but you must discern the truth in front of you from the Word of God by the Holy Spirit, not from ANY man (including me).

 

William, when you say things like you don't know, it's because you do not search the Scripture.  You said "apparently the devil doesn't exist anymore, he was destroyed by Jesus..."  Where, in the Scripture does it say that Satan doesn't exist anymore?  You say" the Bible is God's word, then this must be true as the verses say it is true"  WHERE?????  You say: "all mainstream christians (maybe even you) have lived in fear of a being that is no more.  WHERE IN THE SCRIPTURE DOES IT SAY SATAN IS NO MORE????

 

There are many out there who will argue that there is no devil, no heaven, and no hell.  There are also many who will agree with this teaching because it has been dictated to them by their leader.  As the Word tells us:  ".there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.  And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.  And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you; whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not." (2 Peter 2:1-3).

 

William, one need never fear Satan if one is properly instructed in the Word who seeks the strength and protection of the Lord - as the Word says:  ".be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.  Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rules of the darkness of this world, against sspiritual wickedness in high places.  Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.  Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.  And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God." (Ephesians 6:10-17).

 

Jesus tells His disciples about Satan, and calls him the "prince of this world": "Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out." (John 12:31), "Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me." (John 14:30), "Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged." (John 16:11).  Paul calls Satan: ".the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not." (2 Cor. 4:4) and when Paul spoke to the Ephesian Christians: "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:" (Ephes. 2:2).  From these Scriptures alone, we can see that the devil is real and he yields a real power.  He's working hard to even destroy Christians, their homes, marriages, children, families, and each other.  So, do not be ignorant my friend of Satan's methods and warfare against each of us.   Satan is the arch deceiver who attempts to ruin men by his cunning devices (2 Cor. 2:11).  The devil is the enemy of our souls and he is not going to go away, that is, not until Jesus casts him into the "lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever" (Revelation 20:10).this has not happened yet, but will according to the Lord's timetable.

William, Satan is, and does, all of these things:  ".your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" (2 Peter 5:8), he beguiles ".through his subtility, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ." (2 Cor. 11:3), he is "the author of confusion" (I Cor. 14:33), Satan also knows that if he can deceive man/woman into harboring anger, bitterness, or grudges toward another Christian (as we spoke about earlier), he can cause ".man to fail of the grace of God." (Hebrews 12:15), he is ".the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night." (Rev. 12:10), etc. etc.  Satan is the temptor, the enemy, the father of all lies.

 

After you search the Scripture, you should be able to tell me if this guy is right or wrong. William, he's deceived!  He's wrong!  You must do your homework, study to show yourself approved.  My words can't get you into heaven, and neither can any other man's words put you there - you must make a commitment to Jesus Christ, and be "born again", repent of sin and follow His Word.  I'm here to help, but you must also study, study and study some more.  I'm not sure that you and I have ever talked about your salvation in Christ - I know you read a lot of web sites - which could be confusing you.  Let me know if you have made that true commitment to Jesus and are willing to follow Him only and study His Word.  I love you friend and I'm here to help you, but please, let's discuss your commitment to Jesus Christ first.  Let me know, I'm listening.

In Christ, Raymond

WILLIAM'S RESPONSE:

 

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I now remember that the man I met told me I was a 'chosen one' who would have secret knowledge no man has ever known (imagine me a 'chosen one' big sinner that I am...) I didn't believe a word he told me althought to be polite to him I listened to his arguments with skepticism for over an hour, he trully believed what he told me, he looked deeply brainwashed to me and he claimed thst God spoke to him! (hearing voices in your head is a sign of mental illness) and I really was sorry for him. Their sect only base their beliefs on what Paul wrote, the gospels and the book of revelation are not trustworthy even if they are in the bible, with so many christian sects and division regarding doctrine people like me are bound to be confused as to what is the *REAL* church of Christ, there are just so many confusing ways to be saved, so many rules (or no rules) one has to follow... so at the moment I am just bidding my time, some christians believe it isn't us who can be saved by just reading a sinner's prayer but must do certain steps etc. so confusing if you ask me. 

Thank you anyway, I hope that man changes and finds some freedom from his errorneous belief.
bye.

William.

 

QUESTION:  whats your deal

 

as of late i have been trying to get back in right relationship with god

 

a brife history: all my life i have been brought up in the church and by the grace of god i was privileged to sit under the word of god being preached by men not afraid to preach the gosple as they belivied it. from a child i have been taught deliverance through Christ i have watched as the holy spirit worked miracles and used men in all the gifts of the spirit and this planted a seed in me and as a child i belived that if only people knew the truth they would turn from there error and walk in the light but atlast at a certin age i started to be more interested in girls than of the things of god so most of my teenage life,  ... lets just say i lived in sin then the holy spirit called me ( well he never really stoped but diffrent events got my attention so that i began to listen) and hear was the problem i notcied that every one i respected in christ and remained in him always ( remember I've watched from a child) moved in the gifts of the spirit so i thought that once i was able to lay hold on that i was set and that i made it  in short i was used in the gifts as i follwed the urgining of the holy spirit but i could not keep the fire in me going and asked the lord why i cotinued to go back and forth like this and he told me because i did not study his word

 

now hear is the deal coming up in the word i thought i knew more than almost everybody i encountered and thought that, hey ive read the hole bible before i know its contents im stright and this pride held me back and  now today im diligently searching the word trying to find the truth and get a complete understanding in this pursuit i just came upon an 7th day Adventist web site which presented some very compelling  arguments which as you know were a mixture of half truths in which there was no power but before i could be sucked in to far i had a talk with my pastor who showed me in the scriptures were it said let no man have you fell guilty about Sabbath days or something like that  and that let me know that they were in error but in my spirt i still felt some guilt and the very next day while studing the lord took me and showed my why we are not under the law or any of the old testment mandates and then by faith in the word which is christ i was free from that bondage

 

and now im hear reading your site which seems to be in truth, and not to worry everthing i read hear i will try by the word but the 7th day website started in  truth too before they revealed there ture agend conversion into the 7th day church. in the mean time before for i read all of your articals and get sucked in and have to unlearn more garbage and tradition i have some questions so i dont wast my time if you turn out to be a nut ball  

 

first   i read that one of the sons of noah the evil one as it was put his decedents populated Africa and somewhere eles hear is my question    is it you contention that Africans and there decedents are somehow more cursed or in some way more debased and innately morally evil i am not refering to the sin nature that we all recevied from Adam and eve but some extra evile or cures beyond that.

 

that was the easy one just wanted to know if you are some raceist bastered using the word of god to disperse your hate

 

second and the more presing question i read in your articals still on creation that we no longer have to pay tithes as this is part of the old testment law and in my mind i say this makes sences if we no longer have to folow sabath days then we probaly dont have to pay a tenth anymore either

but in the new testment just the other day i was reading and i belive it was pual (not sure) who was writing the church and was saying that as an apostle he has a right to make his living from the church or have them give him some kind of offering but he had not exercised his right becasue he did not want to be a burden so my question is if we do not owe a tenth of our imcome then by what should we give to the apostles, preacheres, teachers and avangelist for christ 

 

 

 on that subject are you against church all together i consider my self nondenominational  and i know the word says dont forsake the gathering together of the righteous so do you attend church or do you just study alone at home like some type of hermit

 

forgive my many spelling and grammatical errors i hope they dont hinder you from understand me

 

i did not know how to use the microsoft thing so im sending my question from my own e mail i hope thats not a problem

 

 

ANSWER:

 

 

Hello Ben:

 

Thank you for writing!  Live ONLY in the Word and you ARE BACK!  Your deliverance (salvation) is through Jesus Christ ALONE, not what's preached by men in a denomination, and certainly not a cult like SDA which as you said teach "a mixture of ½ truths", but what is taught by the Holy Spirit.  The Holy Spirit teaches us all things.He did me, and He will also teach you as He does for all those who love His Word.

 

You are correct in stating that we are not under the law, but free from bondage of the Old Testament mandates (Galatians 2:16).  You are very knowledgeable of the Word and it is the Holy Spirit who is teaching you these things. 

 

What I am is a fanatic in the truth of His Word as taught to me by His Spirit.  Therefore, please allow me to answer your questions, and may the Holy Spirit guide both of us in His understanding, knowledge and truth of the Word.  

 

Ben, there is NO color in salvation or Christianity!  A soul is NOT black, red, yellow or white, but all created alike.  I love all of the Lord's creation and I do not see color.  The color of a man's skin does not make him evil; it is sin that separates man from Christ.  I see souls that need Jesus Christ as their Saviour.  If any man has never repented he is the one who sees himself and others as black, white or another color.  When the truth is known, it shows all men that we all stand on level and equal ground before Christ.  The spiritual election which the saints receive has nothing to do with race or nationality.  "There is netiher Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.  And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."  (Gal. 3:28-29).  We are all sinners, saved only by Grace, through faith in Jesus Christ.  (Also see Romans 10:12 and Colossians 3:11). 

 

Ben, who is it that controls people today?  The answer is simple; it's the "churches" of men.  These so-called "churches" teach that if their members do not follow the "church's authority" or the "preacher", they are plainly considered to be "heathen", "pagan", "gentile", "cast-a-way", "anathema" or whatever.  These religions, denominations, churches of men, preachers and cults, all use Satan's ways to control people - it is their "marketing tools" today.

 

Ben, always examine whatever you believe about the Lord in light of the actual available evidence.  What is the evidence?  The Word!  If it stands with the Word it is good, if it does not and is the opposite, cast it away, it is evil.  Remember, it is in truth-seeking that you will find your answers, and they will be according to the Word, Jesus Christ.  He is the Word!

 

Now, to your 2nd question re: paying a tithe.  You are correct, we are not under the Old Covenant, there is no longer a tithe and neither is there a cost for salvation - it's free by Grace, a gift of the Lord, (Romans 6:14, Galatians 3:25) and we cannot earn God's favor by any human effort (Galatians 3:3).  Denominations and cults have to work very hard to cover up THEIR doctrines of salvation by grace.  They put undue emphasis on obedience to Old Testament Law and look to their own efforts to gain acceptance of the Lord, whether it be by Tithing, Keeping of the Sabbath, the Sacrifice of the Mass, etc. - they elevate man-made rules into God's rules and there are no such rules or law for those who follow Jesus Christ.  In the New Testament, there is not a single command given to Christians to tithe.

 

There are only two times in the New Testament that Jesus mentions tithing, in Luke 11:42 and Matthew 23:23, and it is in condemnation of the Pharisees.  For other good information on the Tithe, read Hebrews, Chapter 7, as it will help you understand that Christ is our High Priest and no longer is the Law needed as it was for those who were under it, therefore there is no tithe today and no need for a priest (Jesus died for our sins) - that is why there was a change from the law to GRACE - WE ARE FREE INDEED.

 

As far as the Apostle Paul is concerned, we see In I Corinthians 9:18, Paul taught: "What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel."  Paul considered it robbery to take wages from those who were in the "church" (body of Christ) when he preached the gospel.  Even in 2 Corinthians 11:7 we see what Paul said: "Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?"

 

Why, under the New Covenant, would a believer give a tenth of his income, when he is supposed to give his ALL (Romans 12:1).  Our ALL belongs to Christ - He gave it ALL to us.  When those in the "early church" gave, they gave from what they had; it was not for any planned expenses of someone's full time ministry, but rather for meeting the NEEDS of many others.  No, Ben, we do not owe one tenth of our income for evangelists, teachers, preachers, clergymen, priests, or whoever.  Read I Cor. 4:9-16 to see how Paul ministered and financed his ministry. 

 

There is no biblical example authorizing ministers to urge people to send them money.  Many ministers, TV preachers and pastors threaten their congregation by telling them that they must tithe at least 10%, and much more by digging deeper into their wallets, otherwise they say that God will curse them with a curse.  How horrible!  And, these same men call themselves ministers of God?  I don't think so; they are ministers of the devil.  Beware of these men!

 

Ben, I taught the Word for over 30 years now and never took a penny from any person.  It is the Lord Who kept me as I worked for a living, and that is what paid the rent and put food on the table.  I was not a burden to anyone, nor would I want to be one. We are to give freely to others whom we see are hungry and in need.

 

As far as the "churches" of men - they are of the devil.  We, in our hearts, ARE the CHURCH, the "body of Christ".  There were no denominations when Jesus walked this earth - but men have made them such as there are today.  As you know, there are many.  No, I do not attend any church, denominational or non-denominational.  I have had home bible studies for years, but am no longer able to verbally teach - I have had 4 strokes, and am not able to speak well or for long periods of time, without becoming exhausted.  My teaching now is according to my writings.  I have a hand which can still write (even though I'm slow) and answer e-mails, for which I am thankful to the Lord to be able to do that, thus this e-mail to you.  To some, they might consider me a hermit, as I cannot go up and down stairs to leave my home and am pretty much in a chair all the time now, I'm nearly 76 years old and very ready to meet my Saviour Whom I love and want to please, and can hardly wait until I am with Him.  

 

There are no problems or anything to forgive about errors of spelling or anything like that, that doesn't hinder me at all, as my wife cleans up my spelling all the time, she is my typist.  I fully understood everything you have said.  You are leaning my friend.  Do not allow anything or anyone to hinder you.  Study to show yourself approved as the Lord, by His Spirit, teaches us all.  I'm here for you if you have questions or to talk.  Blessings to you!  Never give up, be ready to meet Him when He calls us, as time is very short now.

"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." (John 8:32)

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 


QUESTION:

 

Hello brother Raymond
I was just wondering, is it a command that we go to church? I went to this website that says we are being disobediate when we don't go. I've also been
feeling lonely and blue lately as if I need some fellowship with some more christians. Please tell me God's opinion on this matter.
  Tell Sister Norma I said hello.
                                                   In Christian Love
                                                              John

  P.S.
What's the worst that could happen if I did start back going to church?

 

ANSWER:

 

Hi brother John:

 

I know you have been studying the Word for some time - and I know you know what it says.  If you are not fully assured - then study to show yourself approved.  There are no commands in the Bible that tells us that we MUST go to church.  Church is man's way and another gospel.  How could the Bible command you to attend something that didn't even exist during the time of Jesus?  If you follow Jesus, you're already part of His Church. He is in you. When you gather together with just one other Christian, you're doing church the way He set it up. Matthew 18:20 says - "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

 

John, of course you will find MORE web-sites that say you are being disobedient by not going to church than they will the opposite.  Satan is clever and he would be pleased to have you go back into bondage again.  You and I both know that there are those who believe that joining a church, getting water baptized or going through some other ritual in a church will put them in heaven.  We also know that is not true.  The Word says that unless we are "born again" we cannot enter the Kingdom of God (John 3:3), therefore it takes more than going to church, or even joining a church, to get to heaven.  Being "born again" puts us into the body of Christ, His church, not man's church.

 

I understand that you are feeling lonely - but you are having fellowship with Jesus and other Christians - us - whenever we talk or write each other - that is fellowship and He is in our midst.  John, sometimes our "feelings" can be deceptive, which is why the Lord gave us His Word.  Read 2 Corinthians 11:14 . we see Satan "transformed into an angel of light".  He's out to destroy as many as he can before his time is up.  If you go back into a church because you feel lonely and blue and do not know if they are even teaching the truth, you are opening yourself up to a false gospel, a testimony of a man's religion that denies biblical truth.  Then, you put yourself in peril if you believe their lies of deception which will kill you spiritually.  That's what could happen to you.  Stay in the word! 

 

Remember, the apostle Paul commended the Bereans for checking his teaching against the Word of God.  You must do that with all men (including me) and all web sites.  We all need to be discerning.  We need to know "truth", and only the Holy Spirit who was left us can guide us into His "truth" by His Word.  Always be sensitive to the Holy Spirit's leading and follow the Lord Jesus Christ. 

 

We love you brother - stay in the Word - we're here for you. 

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond


QUESTION:

 

Subj:        Catholic domination

 

I just read your article here:

http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/popeofrome.htm

 

You said this:

Do you know the Kings, Emperors and Princes that the Pope has ruled? All the empires of the world, over the past 2000 years, as well as the religions of men, has one purpose only, and that is to control all souls. Real (Bull-Unam Sanctum, 1302) - in general, states all men must be subject to Rome.

 

Given your extensive knowledge on Catholicism, I was wondering if you would be so kind as to read chapter 12 from my book "Earthquake Resurrection" and let me know if you think it is accurate.  I have attached that chapter to this email.

 

Thanks,

David W. Lowe

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello David:

 

Thank you for writing!  Sir, you have produced a good work for the Lord in your Chapter 12 of "Earthquake Resurrection".  You have an excellent interpretation of Revelation's Chapter 6, the "white horse" of verse 2, in which you have identified the spirit of religious domination correctly.  This evil spirit will be present in this world until Jesus Christ returns for His church very soon. 

 

David, you have done a terrific job of backing up your thoughts on the Roman Catholic religion with proof from their own history, Vatican I, Vatican II Councils and Cannons.  It is correct and I agree with what you wrote - because it is the truth, that which I also have studied.  As you probably know I was deep into the pagan religion and taught by Jesuits, but it did not register - and the reason I say this is because I was being taught another Jesus, certainly not Jesus Christ the Word whom I now love and know.

 

We need more of this type of information from the Holy Spirit.  Please continue allowing the Holy Spirit to guide you. 

 

I do have a request or question - why you are not using the King James Bible?  David, it is the most accurate English translation that we have today.  Please look closely into this with much prayer and allowing of the Holy Spirit's guidance. 

 

David, please keep me posted and keep in touch.  See you in heaven brother! 

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond 

 

DAVID'S RESPONSE TO RAYMOND

 

Wow, thanks for the great review!  That interpretation was the most difficult to write, but I believe it could be accurate.  However, rather than singling out Catholicism as the only thing represented in that horse and rider, as I said in the book, ANY religion/domination/cult that uses Christ's name to dominate or brainwash people is being influenced by that evil spirit.

 

I was not aware of your background in that religion!  I'm glad you made it out of there...out of man's tradition and mental domination.  I have never been a Catholic, but it just doesn't jive with what the scripture teaches...and in some ways (in the book), this is blatant.  Such as Mary being a co-redemptrix.

 

I've studied the history of the KJV pretty closely, and while I find much value in it, and applaud as the original "light" coming out of the dark ages, I do not believe it to be the only correct translation into English.  This KJV was what I put to memory when I memorized 2/3 of the New Testament as a teenager.  This what I said about this topic in my book (this is in in the "Introduction"):

 

Rule 4. The original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts, penned by the original authors, are the inspired Word of God, not any translation of them.

Unfortunately, none of the original full-length manuscripts written by the original authors are still in existence. What exists are early copies of those originals, or copies of copies, and with some books there are hundreds of copies. The King James Version (KJV) of the Bible is the most popular English translation of the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts. The history of the KJV, and the manuscripts on which it is based, is a topic that has been covered by literally thousands of authors. Therefore the long and interesting history of the KJV will be only briefly explored below.

The 1611 King James Version was based principally upon Theodore de Beza's 1588, 1589, and 1598 editions of the Greek New Testament, which themselves differed little from the printed Greek editions of Desiderius Erasmus of 1527 and 1535 and those of Robert Stephanus published between 1546 and 1551. The self-proclaimed "Textus Receptus," published by the Elzevir printing family in their 1633 edition of the Greek New Testament, was based primarily on de Beza's 1565 edition. The KJV itself was published in 1611, before the Textus Receptus in 1633. Both, however, were based upon the earlier editions of Erasmus, Stephanus, and de Beza. These were all noble efforts of their day, but they did not have access to the wealth of additional manuscripts that have been found since that time. In fact, as older Greek manuscripts were discovered during these years of publication, these editions were corrected in several places to conform to the earliest and most reliable manuscripts (key point! Ed.) Over the years scholars have noted many editorial errors in the Erasmus editions, including typological errors as well as readings that were based upon the Latin Vulgate rather than any known Greek manuscripts. Some of these errors were even reproduced and found their way into later editions, upon which the KJV was ultimately based. These errors included several words in Revelation and 1 John which do not appear in any other ancient manuscript or papyri preserved to this day.

Despite these perceived limitations, the KJV is a worthy translation into the English language, and was instrumental in the preparation of this book. However, a new translation that also exhibits solid scholarship and textual criticism is the New English Translation, or NET. This translation is used almost exclusively in the scripture passages quoted in this book.

 

Question:  would it be OK to use some of your comments below on my website as a sort of mini-review?

 

Looking forward to your thoughts,

Dave

 

RAYMOND'S ANSWER TO DAVID

 

Hi again Dave:

 

I agree with your 1st paragraph - ANY religion/denomination/cult that uses the blessed name of Jesus to dominate/brainwash people into submission are, without any doubt, evil.  

 

I also have read many books on the subject of the King James Bible and have studied other translations against the KJB.  Did you know that it is fact that the modern translations are based on 2 Catholic Greek texts (Vaticanus, from the Vatican; and Sinaticus, from a monastery), their translators calling them "the earliest and most reliable manuscripts."  These manuscripts were very corrupt.  All of these modern translations contain different readings and I'm sure you are aware of such.  I know that the King James Authorized Version which you and I have read, and I will continue to read, is the Word of the Holy Spirit. I also believe that God is not the author of confusion (I Cor. 14:33).  God promised to preserve His words and they are preserved as the Word in the King James Bible, and it is the finest translation in the English language because of its superior text. 

 

David, these last days are evil and the deceptions are fierce.  We already have many, many different English versions available today and it's becoming quite difficult, especially for the younger people and babes in Christ, to individually separate Satan's counterfeits from the Word of God.  One must certainly be grounded in the Word by the Holy Spirit in order to overcome all these counterfeits.  Satan is clever when it comes to deceiving man through false bibles, false religion and false teachers.   

 

The Holy Spirit used the King James for me and it gets results in truth.  I have a chart on the Bibles and their history, check it out.  I've done my home work for over 30 years, as I wanted to be truthful and honest in serving the Lord, not hindering mine or any other person's walk.  There is no way that you could go wrong in the King James.

 

David, you are more than welcome to use anything I say on your site.  Thanks again!  

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond


QUESTION:      Revenge

Hi Brother raymond,
I sometimes (for over a year now) have these feelings of anger and desire for revenge towards someone who wronged me, I try hard to shake these feelings but they come back, and I can't seem to think of anything but what the person did to me.
What can i do? I want to move on, but the desire to 'get even someday' is still there.
Hope you reply.

William G

 

ANSWER:


Hello again William:

William, in Matthew 6:14-15 the Lord Jesus Christ emphatically stated eternal truth with the following words:  "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."     That's pretty clear William, that according to Jesus Christ the Word, IF you have been saved by faith in Him, then you must meet this condition of forgiving others or your future sins committed after you own salvation will NOT be forgiven.  This teaching proceeded from the ONE (Jesus Christ) Who has the words of eternal life (John 6:68).

 

William, it truly takes LOVE to forgive another person - "Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good." (Romans 12:21), and it takes REMEMBERING what Jesus did for us - "Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you." (Ephesians 4:31-32).

 

Didn't Jesus Christ forgive you?  He surely did, He forgave all of us despite the hurt to himself caused by our sin.  There was no desire for revenge on His part.  He forgives it all, wipes the slate clean and doesn't try to use pay-back for what we have done.  He forgave us completely, didn't He?  If you are truly walking with Christ, your fruit better begin to show.

 

William, Jesus Christ the Word also says:  "Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift." (Matt. 5:23-24) - so it works both ways.  So whether the person that wronged you was right or wrong doesn't matter, that isn't the issue. The issue is YOUR anger and revenge - not another's - it is YOUR lack of forgiveness.  William, beware, for your spiritual enemy, the devil, will try to get you into a state of unforgiveness, such as you are in right now, so that he can destroy you with it.  Where will you stand in this? 

 

Remember, forgiveness for a Christian, if one is a Christian, is never ending, it is limitless.  Even if it were possible for a person to sin against you 100's of times in one day, that person should still be forgiven.  So, never parade any vengeance, bitterness, and anger of an unforgiving spirit, because that is the opposite of the virtue LOVE.  And, in Matthew 18:22, where Jesus says how many times we forgive someone: "Until seventy times seven."  Then we see another teaching of Jesus in Luke 17:3-4: "Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.  And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him."  William, we are called to have the same mercy on others that God has bestowed on us.  If we can't forgive, we too are shown no mercy - as you saw in Matthew 6:14-15 in the above 1st paragraph.

 

Hey, I love you brother - do not put yourself in the position of allowing Satan to rip you up one side and down the other - he's clever - but YOU have the Word - use it, rebuke that demon in the name of Jesus Christ.  And, forgive him or her who wronged you, be done with it, go to that person and forgive that person before the Lord and you shall be forgiven your sin.

 

May the Word strengthen you William - stay in the Word!

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

QUESTION:
    

Well, Raymond, you do argue a difficult point. But still, you butchered my argument. The adaptation of pagan rituals, was done to make the transition to Christianity easier. Which do you think is better, this is the two options the ancients would have weighed,

Convert them..OR...Kill them.  My friends enemy is my friend, so is my non-friend my enemy? To tell the truth, no religion is uncorrupt. All have a nasty little flaw that sometimes have to be overlooked. After all, why did the Romans want to convert the Visigoths and the Ostrogoths, and the Vandals? Because if they didn't they would fight. Why is president Bush "Liberating" Iraq?  Not so we can "steal all the oil for our selfs" that is the most stupid un-educated belief, so the ENTIRE WORLD will have an oil supply. Islam is a very peaceful religion, but then you have the al-queda, who misuse,and mis-quote scripture. And use it for evil. I do wish to enlighten you, speaking of mis-quoting scripture, that quote you LOVE to throw up in the air "for they worship me in vein..."  God wasn't talking to those who celebrate Christmas, he was talking to those who practiced Christianity, ALONG SIDE pagan religion. A spectacle that takes place in much of south America today. You think all the Hispanics are christian because of the Spanish Conquistidores? No ,they still have witch doctors, and worship idols and practice divination, and have spells and etc. That witch they got from the African slaves, who were brought over. Like wise, god was talking to those Romans who offered up prayer to Zeus,and Apollo,and Poseidon, etc. yet still believed in the christian god. this is who his word was directed towards. And I am greatly insulted that you claim I am not a theologian. I happen to have several degrees in Asian religion. I must come clean however, I was a practicing catholic for 25 years, I am now a monotheistic Unitarian. A religion that demands knowledge.

 

Just because killings happened on or around Christmas, that doesn't mean anything, what was happening year round even not on Christmas, killing, It's WAR! What was the most disastrous happening of WWII? The "fat man" and "little boy", that's what. Did they happen on or near Christmas, NO!  And the fact that the fighting did cease during WWI, says something doesn't it? Even if for a brief period, would they have stopped any other time, NO! 

 

Christmas has become a north american, and European institution. And the proceedings are done innocently. Those who practice them, have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA that these rituals are derived from pagan customs, nor do they make any connection of the such.

 

This is a belief of mine, and it is that god dose not persecute the those ignorant to Christianity. What god really looks at are your actions, your decisions, charity, "good will towards men" , how much you love. If you live a live of love (including:forgiveness,non-prejudice,charity to those less fortunate) then god will take you into his bosom. There is no right or wrong religion, there is only good and evil, and those who embrace them. The path you chose is a noble one. The path of

non-denomination. For the catholic church is corrupt and has been for centuries.  By the way, I am also a mason, so i do know the history of the Templar Knights, thank you.

 

Well, let me leave you with this to meditate upon.

 

"thy kingdom come, thy will be done"

 

ANSWER:

 

Rupert:

 

I do not care to participate in arguing with you.  Furthermore, you have no argument.  What you have is choice, your free will life by the Creator.  There is no religion or paganism to it.  Love is a key to the Creator which gets you in through the DOOR (Jesus Christ), not by man or religion. 

 

Man's definition of love today has been changed to mean tolerance at the expense of truth. Rupert, if love doesn't find its source in truth, it is a phony love. John 1:14 - "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." This is the ONE (Jesus Christ) God the father sent because of HIS love.

 

The true path to Jesus Christ does NOT require intellectual integrity and degrees. Of course you deny the deity of Jesus Christ.  Your belief parallels that of the New Age - that Jesus was just a good and moral man, but not God the Son.  Many Unitarians claim salvation by "character".  Rupert, God does not look at your "good works" to save you - your "good works" of trying to be "good people of good character," which is a good thing, but will never get you to heaven.  A good character will never save us from our sins.  "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9).  Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14:6).  Even our education and paper degrees will never get us to heaven.  You are on the wrong road.  Jesus Christ ONLY is LOVE and the way to heaven and life forever.  

 

I know that you believe there is no penalty for sin and that there is no hell - therefore, your belief tells you there is nothing that you must be saved from.  As a believer in Jesus Christ and His Word, I believe that there is a penalty for sin - but our (believers) sin has been taken away and forgiven (through our repentance) by Jesus Christ through His shed blood and death on the tree.

 

A loving and just God shall judge all souls.  But, while we are on this earth we (all believers in Jesus Christ) are called to judge truth from error and righteousness from heresy.  We are to love sinners, but hate their sin.  I pray that you will have the courage to read the Word of God, and that the Holy Spirit will open your eyes to the truth.

 

I leave you with the Words of Jesus Christ - "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber." (John 10:1) and "I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved (vs. 9).

 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond


QUESTION:    

Was Jesus a spiritual teacher or the real messiah???????and if a messiah where can I read or someone show me what to do???

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello Marco:

 

Thank you for writing!  Most people do not ask these questions unless they are either in the religion of Islam or Judaism.  Are you in either religion?  I know that most Muslims that I have had contact with deny Jesus Christ as Messiah.  The Jews also deny Jesus Christ as Messiah.

 

Jesus Christ was the Creator, the real Messiah and the true Saviour of the entire human race.  He is our King, Lord, friend and our life.  In Him, every single prophecy was fulfilled exactly and specifically the way it was given, having no variation or contradiction. 

 

There are many religions that say Jesus was simply a 'good person', or a 'good teacher', or 'one of many prophets', but these things of religion are not true.   There will always be those who are skeptic and refuse to believe in Jesus Christ.  Nothing I say, or anything they read, would convince them He is real.  But, their believing not in Him does not nullify the truth, and one day they will discover that, indeed Jesus is the Messiah who came to save them, when they stand before Him at the Judgment.

 

The King James AV Bible is His book by the Holy Spirit.  In the Bible you can read what it says: "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." (Acts 4:12)

 

 

If you are earnestly seeking to know the truth and seriously want to know if Jesus is who the Bible says He is - the only true Messiah, you shall find the truth and all the answers to your questions - for the words of Jesus in Scripture says: "For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. (Luke 11:10) 

In John 4:25-26, we see Jesus having a conversation with the woman at the well: "The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.  Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he."  Here we see that the woman makes direct reference to the coming Messiah, then Jesus claims to be the person to which she makes reference.  This is a direct claim by Jesus as to His Messiahship.

 

Marco, no one can shut the door of salvation on you if you are truly seeking, for Jesus Christ was victorious when He died for us.  If you come to know Jesus Christ who died to give you life, then you have it all.

 

You asked what to do?  Accept Jesus Christ as your Saviour.  He died for you because He loved you.  He loves all men and wants all saved, and it doesn't matter what nationality one is.  Jesus is the Savior of all who will repent and submissively trust in him. Rev. 7 states there will be people in God's kingdom from all nations, every tribe, people of every language, all redeemed by the precious blood of Jesus.

 

My articles are available on my web page: http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/articles.html

 

If you want to know more I'm here to help and may we both be led by the Holy Spirit in all truth.

 

In Jesus Christ,
Raymond


QUESTION:    why are we here

 

Whats the purpose to be born (that we didn't ask for)? Put up with others that know more about what we want than we (ourselves do). Then die like we were never here anyway. Got some answers?                Never ask,never wanted to stay..... Rick

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello Rick:

 

At some point in our lives, everyone asks these questions, maybe variations of them, but in one way or another, these questions cross our minds.  They did mine!  Not one person seeks unless he wants to learn.  No one asks a question unless he wants an answer.  When one seeks "truth", his mind must be open to receive the truth.  Rick, I pray you are open to the truth!

 

Many people, either consciously or sub-consciously, are concerned with the direction of his life, some at a young age, and some at an older age.  Maybe there has been a traumatic experience that recently happened in their life such as a death, divorce, loss of family or job - or, they just go about their daily business with no bad experience, but they don't understand what their life is all about or the reason they have been put on this earth. 

 

Rick, maybe you have gone thru some tough times in your life, maybe not, I don't know.  Then, perhaps you are successful, but nothing seems to satisfy you.  Or, you might be a hard working man, just trying to make ends meet (done that, been there), and wondering if it's all worth it.  Rick, you are not alone!  There are many people out there, just trying to get through each day.  The problem is they don't seem to have any hope.  That's because NOTHING in THIS world can satisfy them.

 

Rick, there's a choice to make!  We are here to make a choice - each and every person alive on this earth.  That choice is - where do we want to spend eternity?  It's our choice!  I call what you are going through a "spiritual hunger".  What "it" is is a personal relationship with your Creator, Jesus Christ.  Without it, you are incomplete, and you may feel like something is missing, empty, or not quite right.  You may have everything, yet you have nothing.  You need something more to make you feel right - we all do.

 

You, my friend, as well as myself and all others, are given a "free will", and the Creator will not force anything upon you that you do not want to hear, know or do.  The Lord will answer every person who ASKS HIM WHY they were put on this earth clearly, IF THEY CHOOSE to hear His answer.  But, if they refuse to accept His answer, they essentially shut themselves off from everything else He has to say to them.  He didn't have to create us, nor did He have to give us life, but for reasons known only to him - you and I were special enough to Him that He wanted us to make a choice by the "free will" He gave us when He created us. 

 

Rick, you and I (all men) are blessed to be born free, and it's been given us "free" out of love.  But, it's still your choice, just as it was mine.  Our identities, our self-worth, are NOT performance based but "gifts" of God's grace through His love.  There is nothing WE can do to make ourselves more worthy human beings or to make us less worthy in the Lord's eyes. 

 

Our next life is forever!  Ever thought about it?  I made a choice, and have chosen love and heaven forever with Christ.  It wasn't always that way for all of my life - only ½ of my life.  The first half of my life was wondering and searching out things, even in religion.  None of it worked.  I'm certainly in the last days of my life at nearly 76 years.  But, not everyone is given that many years on earth to make a decision.  I have been blessed and I know it, and I would like you to have that same knowledge, and you can.

 

You know, when Adam and Eve sinned, they pretty much ruined it for all of us.  From then on, we were separated from the Lord by sin, and not just Adam and Eve's sin, but ours too.  The Bible, which I believe to be the inspired Word of God, tells us that we are ALL sinners.  Every man, woman and child ever born on this earth are sinners - "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23).  Now, for any person who comes to Jesus Christ and confesses his/her sins, repents of all their past life and asks for forgiveness, the Lord will forgive that person - and that forgiveness comes because of Jesus Christ and what He did for all of mankind as their Saviour and Lord by shedding His blood and dying for us.  The Bible is clear that we are not "good", nor is anything we do good - we cannot earn forgiveness by our good works - it is only ".by grace are ye saved through faith: and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9).

 

Rick, the only real happiness comes from understanding our purpose in life.  Because I believe the Word (the Bible) to be truth - I know that it contains the answers to life - both for now and for the hereafter.  The Bible has the unfolding overall plan of the Creator for this entire world, for all of mankind and for dealing with sin.  This same plan is still in effect today, but too many people are searching in the wrong places: drugs, alcohol, pornography, relationships, money, and things.  These things are only temporary fixes for their flesh that will leave them feeling empty after awhile, and will also send them to hell in the end.  Man will even look to religion or another man and put either above their Creator, Jesus Christ.  Neither one, religion or man, can save another man.

 

The true Christianity of the Word, Jesus Christ (King James Authorized Bible), offers you and I forgiveness and hope through that single person - JESUS CHRIST!  He did it all for us, certainly nothing we have to do.  We don't have to join a religious denomination in order to gain His favor, all in hope that one day we just might make it to heaven, yet are never quite sure we will.  Big difference here, Jesus did it all - everything for us when He shed His blood and died on the tree.  All we have to do is accept Him as our Saviour, living Him every day of our lives - and believe what he did, He did for us by paying the price for our sin, and never stray from that belief. 

 

Perhaps you never asked questions before, and never wanted to stay on this earth because you didn't want to hear the answer.  Remember, I said I pray that you are open to the truth, and you, my friend, can only receive that truth by the Holy Spirit, not by me.  Each of us can only find the perfect answer in Jesus Christ, the Word.  Rick, I am a Christian and I am utterly reliant upon His Word, and I know that the Holy Spirit will show and teach me everything I need to know, and yes, my questions have been answered.  I know that without Jesus Christ I am nothing, a big zero.  With Him I have eternal salvation.  And, it's true that we have been created by Him - therefore there is purpose to our existence.  Our life has meaning because our existence is the result of His purpose and our identity has an eternal significance. There is a goal, certainly for those who know the truth, a destination for which I yearn. 

 

I pray you have a desire to learn more - that your purpose will become ingrained into your existence, finding Jesus Christ Who has made us and will welcome you and I into His kingdom with open arms in the near future.

 

I am here for you if you have more questions - may the Holy Spirit guide us both. 

My site if you want to know what I'm about - http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/articles.html

 

In Jesus Christ,

  Raymond

 

QUESTION:       

 

Re:  why are we here

Ok,Who is GOD, Where did he come from, What gave him the right to grow us like grems? You say we have FREE will. Were you asked before you became part of this experiment? I don't think so. Can you find ANYONE that was? Ten dollars to a donut hole that you won't either. Got more answers?          Rick

 

 

ANSWER:

 

God is the great "I AM"!  He always was, is and always will be!  God IS NOT and WAS NOT in the category of things that are created, or Who came into existence.  God is uncaused and uncreated - He simply exists.  God is NOT physical or material, He is spiritual and infinite.  Read my Article "God" at: http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/god.htm  - also, if you do not want to believe in God, you never will.

I and all true Christians are blessed, having a part of His plan for all eternity.  I'm going to live forever in heaven with HIM! 

I'm not sure you really want the answers which is the truth.  I say this as an opinion because your comments seem very negative to anything that would remotely resemble God's Word, especially when you make a statement as to: "What gave him the right to grow us like grems? I'm sure you meant "germs".  Are you an atheist - or perhaps agnostic?

 

QUESTION:

 

Re: still here and waiting

 

 

Raymond, This is no joke. I don't do drugs, nor drink. Coffee,cigarettes do me just fine. You got me beat by about 14 years age wise. Seek and you shall find. Well I'm seeking! Did you find ANYONE that came here of thier own free will? Still got the 10.00 dollars to your donut hole. The Good book says that the grave is HELL. That the dead know nothing. The meek shall inherit the earth and it will be paridise. Now where is heaven going to be?

 

 

ANSWER:

 

Rick, fine, it certainly isn't a joke!  To me and every other Christian, our salvation is NOT A JOKE, not in the least.  No man came to this earth of his OWN free will because when man came to earth he was born of a woman and later learns to exercise his free will (make his own decision) as to whom he will choose to serve, either Jesus Christ his Creator or Satan - that is how man's free will works.

 

You said: "Seek and you shall find".  Are you!  Are you truly seeking - you say you are, but what is it you are seeking?  To me, your words mock the Creation and slander the Creator.  Keep your $10, I'm not interested.  There is only one way, when seeking, that you grow in spiritual knowledge on this earth and that is by reading and studying the Bible for yourself. There is no other way.  Even if I had an answer for every question you asked, and I probably do not, it will be by your own desire to grow spiritually that you can find the answers to your questions in the Word of God.  There are difficult issues sometimes that we simply must leave in the hands of our all-wise and benevolent Lord God, and when we see Jesus face to face we can ask Him for the answers, after all we have to stand before Him to be judged, either to heaven or to hell. 

 

Rick, you do not know the "good book" - Hell is NOT the grave, that's Satan's lie to have passed on among unbelievers.  Hell is a Lake of Fire where Satan and all the unbelievers will go at a certain time - hell is damnation - hell is fire.  The bible speaks of it several times.  And, the dead shall know exactly why they are in hell for all eternity.  Read my article on "Hell" - http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/helltorment.htm  One thing is perfectly clear Rick, no one can count on ignorance to save him - (Acts 17:30).

 

The dead shall know - for the human who lived in the body and has passed on into eternity, shall stand before the Lord in judgment (not the white throne judgment)....the location of sleep judgment...heaven or hell.  This is determined by your life on earth in the flesh...what you chose as your path on earth....your life style, good or evil, free-will choice to accept Christ or Satan...it's entirely up to each individual.  http://www.godsswordoftruth.com/death.htm

Also, those who had been waiting in faith in the compartment called Paradise (Abraham's bosom) were led in ascending to heaven with Jesus at his ascension.  After the resurrection and ascension of Jesus, Paradise, the area for the righteous, was emptied out, and now the believer goes directly to heaven - "to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord" - 2 Cor. 5:8.  Jesus stated in John 14:2-4 that He went ahead of us to prepare a place in heaven which is where his Father dwells, and that where He is we may be also.

 

Rev.2:7 "To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God".  In Rev.22:2 we see this tree is located in the new Jerusalem.  The location of paradise will again change in the future to be on the new earth for 1000 years, as the new Jerusalem comes down and the dwelling place of God is with man (Read all of Rev.21:1 to Rev.22:21). The same tree that was forbidden for Adam to eat from so that he would not become eternal in his fallen state, will be offered to everyone that has received their immortal resurrected bodies. 

 

There will be a new heaven and a new earth - God will destroy the earth, as we know it, and also the heavens - "Bur the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." - 2 Peter 3:7.  In 2 Peter 3:12-13: - "Looking for the hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?  Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness." 

 

Rick, now is the time to accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.  ".behold, now is the day of salvation." (2 Corinthians 6;2).  You can come to know the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour.  This is where the Holy Spirit comes in.  Jesus said the Spirit would teach us, convict us and reveal God to us through His Son.  It's up to you!  Read the Word (the King James Bible), but more than anything, ask the Lord to show you the truth, and by His Spirit you shall learn, because the Holy Spirit teaches and guides us.  I pray that you have an open heart when seeking and that you find Jesus Christ who is necessary for you believe in in order to go to heaven one day.  Time is short!  I pray I see you in heaven!

In Jesus Christ, 

Raymond


QUESTION:    website

 

Just out of Curiosity, what religion are you? I see you use the "King James" version of the bible so of course your PROTESTant.  My dear friend, I love you because you are fellow human. Here you are obiously christian, and do you mean to tell me, when you were a kid your two most favorite days of the year werent your birthday and christmas. Your parents and your friends, what, they all practice pagan rituals too? By the way, most people commit suicide for the mourning of a loved one, this cheerful time of year reminds them of the good times they spent with their loved ones, and do you have any VALID EXAMPELES that this time of year promotes WAR?

 

And why is it that protestants love to pick on us catholics? Catholosisim WAS the ORIGIONAL christan religion you know. You should respect all christians, I respect you as a christian. And yes I agree, these customs are pagan in origin, but realize that the romans, adapted to this so the Pagans could know the love of Jesus. How would you like it if this big army, bust down the front gates of your village, a village of farmers and nothing else, no traders, no soldiers, no king, just a village, and told you , "lisiten up, you have no more power, you will now convert to a religion that you have never heard of, and abandon all of your local customs and traditions, that your people have practiced for thousands of years. 

 

If you ask me, the object of your website is to induse hate in men. To dissuade people from glorifying the birth of Jesus. So what if its Pagan?  I'm sorry my friend, but its been this way for thousands of years, one little hateful man with a website isin't going to be changeing anybodys mind anytime soon.  Please reply to me so we may follow up this debate, unless your set in your ways and are unable to lisiten to other opnions, and furthermore don't care. But if not, and are an open minded man, then please, converse with this Theologan.

 

ANSWER:


Hello Rupert

I am a Christian, no religion, certainly not Protestant either - but I am a born-again Christian who loves Jesus Christ and all souls. I confess today that I am saved simply through my faith by His Grace, in Jesus Christ alone.

Yes, I use the King James Bible because it is the best translation into English that man has today.  Reading the King James Bible does not make a man Protestant or any other religion, but makes him wise unto the Word of God.

If you had read other articles on my web site you would have seen that I was a practicing Catholic for many years and had studied as a brother of Notre Dame in the 1940's.  When I was a child I didn't know the true Jesus Christ as Saviour, nor did my parents - we only knew the catholic ways, the catholic christ and church tradition, and yes, we all practiced pagan rituals, not only Christ-mass, but mass every day for seven days a week.  We were all practicing Catholics, but never knowing or having true salvation through faith in Christ alone.

 I can't answer you as to why Protestants pick on Catholics - you will have to ask them that question.

You asked about "war" on Christmas?  Well, you may not remember this if you are very young, but President Nixon offered an ultimatum to North Vietnam on December 14th, 1972 to resume negotiations or "suffer the consequences" - well, the consequences are well known in history as the "Christmas bombing"  December 17-30, 1972 the most intense bombing campaign of the Vietnam war.  If you want to look up some info on the "Hong Kong" atrocities on December 25, 1941 when the Japanese killed all 96 of the wounded soldiers of Britain, Canada and India on Christmas morning by bayonet and then beheaded them.  Even in the 1st World War (in history books at your library) it's well known that the Brits and the Germans decided to withdraw their fighting on Christmas Eve, in 1914.  The guns fell silent all along the Western Front during the spontaneous "Christmas Truce" of WWI, but the silence ended early on Christmas afternoon and the killing started all over again.

You brought up the following:
  How would you like it if this big army, bust down the front gates of your village, a village of farmers and nothing else, no traders, no soldiers, no king, just a village, and told you , "lisiten up, you have no more power, you will now convert to a religion that you have never heard of, and abandon all of your local customs and traditions, that your people have practiced for thousands of years.  IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE BY THE CATHOLIC RELIGION!  And, I thought you said you are a theologian?   Well, Rupert, this is exactly what the Catholic Religion did when they had their own wars - and if you want to know about the atrocities committed by the Roman Catholic religion and their wars, go to your library or search the internet on the Inquisition or the Crusades.  During the Inquisition, the Catholic religion killed millions.  The Roman Catholic Church hunted down "heretics" and killed them. Some of these "heretics" were people with strange beliefs, but many of them were Bible-believing Christians. Its last execution was in the early nineteenth century (1826). A Spanish schoolmaster was hanged because he substituted the phrase "Praise be to God" in place of "Ave Maria" ("Hail Mary") during school prayers.  (You can check these things out as truth at your library).

War is war my friend, and it's all over the world. Killing doesn't stop, not even today, and certainly not on Christmas.  But, one day soon, it shall stop - when the Lord Jesus Christ steps foot on the Mount of Olives and keeps peace for 1000 years.

Rupert, we have an enemy (Satan) out there who never gives up.  Yes, he's still here and alive, and he really doesn't want you to realize he is still here, or even that he exists.  You have to wake up and smell the stench of the wicked devil and his demons who came to devour.

Having been Catholic for forty years, I finally realized the Catholic church was teaching another gospel - a pagan religion - and a catechism.  In an effort to stamp out the pagan beliefs, the catholic church of Rome, which later came into being as the Catholic Church, renamed Saturnalia (a pagan time of year) "Christ-Mass" by the 5th century, and the Catholic church ordered it to be celebrated on the day of the old Roman feast on December 25th.

Do you know that there is NOT one word in the New Testament, nor for that fact, in the whole Bible telling us that we should observe Christmas?  The Christians (NOT CATHOLIC) of the 1st Century, under the inspired teaching of Paul and Peter and the other Apostles never observed it.  So, what then is the origin of Christmas?  Would you believe it came to us through the Roman Catholic Church?  You should know this.  That's where it gets its authority as a religious holiday.  Please examine your Catholic Encyclopedia, published by the RCC, look under "Christmas" and you will find:
"Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the church.  Irenaeus and Tertullian omit it from their lists of feasts; Origen, glancing perhaps at the discreditable imperial Natalitia, asserts (in Lev. Hom. Viii in Migne, P.G., XII, 495) that in the Scriptures sinners alone, not saints, celebrate their birthday; Arnobius (VII, 32 in P.L., V, 1264) can still ridicule the "birthdays" of the gods."  If you read all of it, you can see that all the Pagan customs gravitated to Christmas.

Christmas as celebrated by Catholics and early Protestants a few hundred years ago was not the same secular holiday that man celebrated in that 5th century or even the one people recognize today.  It was a "Christes Maesee" (Christ's Mass) or Nativity service plus a large family dinner.

There were no Christmas trees in the homes as they did not gain popularity in the United States until late in the 19th century.  Therefore, we didn't always have "Christmas" in the United States. F.W. Woodworth of Detroit unexpectedly made a fortune in the 1880s selling German-made Christmas tree ornaments which he had reluctantly stocked in his five-and-dime stores.  In 1882 Edward Johnson, a colleague of Thomas Edison, became the first person to light a Christmas tree with electric light -- using a string of 80 small bulbs.  So you see, Christmas has not always been in the United States and actually only began here approximately 40 some years before I was born - and that makes me nearly 76 years old.

 The New Testament was written by the Apostles. They wrote His Words, the Words of Jesus Christ.  Jesus did not tell us in the Bible to teach pagan customs
"so the Pagans could know the love of Jesus".  Such nonsense!   None of them were Catholic because there was no Roman Catholic Church at the time of Jesus Christ. This was over two centuries before Constantine's "conversion".  It was Constantine who made the rules and commandments (See the "Commandments of the Church" in the Catholic Encyclopedia): " We do not find in the early history of the Church any fixed and formal body of Church Commandments. As early, however, as the time of Constantine, especial insistence was put upon the obligation to hear Mass on Sundays and Holy Days, to receive the sacraments and to abstain from contracting marriage at certain seasons." The Catholic church commands you to be at Mass on Sundays and Holy Days (Christmas included) or it's sin for you.

WHEREAS THE BIBLE TEACHES: "Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.  For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.  If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou has attained." (I Timothy 4:3-6).  As far as hearing Mass on Sundays and Holy Days?  The WORD TELLS US PLAINLY - "But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?  Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years." (Gal. 4:9-10). According to THE WORD OF GOD the Believer in Jesus Christ is "free" from these "weak and beggarly elements" of the Catholic church.

Rupert, do you worship Jesus Christ at Christmas?  As you said in your own words:
"So what if its Pagan?" The Word says:  "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth" (John 4:24).  And what is truth?  The Word of God - the Bible - "thy word is truth" (John 17:17); and the Bible says the Lord will not accept worship when people take a pagan custom or manner of worship and try to honor Christ with it.  Again, Jesus Christ said:  "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." (Matt. 15:9).

Rupert, you said:
  "And yes I agree, these customs are pagan in origin, but realize that the romans, adapted to this so the Pagans could know the love of Jesus."  How could anyone know the love of Jesus through a pagan custom?  Anyone following the customs and traditions of men are in danger.  And, yes, Christmas observance is a tradition of men.  Jesus was the living Word of God in Person, and the Bible is the written Word of God. And we shall be judged, for eternity, by these words. They should not be taken lightly or ignored.  Many have professed to be Christian, but they are in Babylon, just as Bible prophecy foretold, and they don't even know it! "Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues" is the warning of Revelation 18:4. 

By following the religious traditions of men, we deny Christ and we insult the Spirit of Grace.  Let us all be warned: Hebrews 10:29 - "Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden underfoot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto  the Spirit of Grace? 30 .Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge His people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God."

 

Rupert, Satan loves war, false religion and pagan holidays and holydays!  He is the "father of lies" and hate.   I do not pick - I warn all because I love all souls (even yours), and it doesn't matter what their religion is or isn't. Religion comes from customs and traditions of men, but Christianity is a way of life in Jesus Christ. It's living HIM every day of your life, NOT just on Christmas, as Christmas isn't even the date of His birth.

 

Read all my articles on the web, all from the Holy Spirit.  You need help because Theologian you aren't.  I can help you because I love you!


In Jesus Christ,

Raymond


QUESTION:

SUBJECT:    Porn

Hi brother Raymond,

I regularly go onto christian message boards like www.xxxchurch.org and see christians who claim to be born again, blood-bought, holy spirit filled, etc. who regularly look at porn and excuse it on the fact that they are under grace and God will forgive them as long as they confess their daily failings with porn...

I don't get it, can a true christian still sin and get to heaven?, they claim St. paul says you don't have to be perfect and if you sin, that's OK just confess your failings...

Are these people TRUE followers of Jesus?

p.s. I look at porn too, I am single... but if I was  a 'new person' like these people claim to be, I wouldn't sin deliberately...

Bye.
William

ANSWER:


Hello William:

 There are many mis-guided luke-warmers in the world.  If Jesus Christ is not the Lord and Master of their life, He is NOT their Saviour. ALL opponents of this doctrine DENY the Lord Jesus Christ and turn the grace of God into lasciviousness by saying saved people may live just like the world.  Their doctrine comes from men, the doctrine of "once saved always saved".

The carnal mind is enmity with the Lord.  One either serves the devil or serves the Lord.  Jesus is NOT their Saviour while Satan is their lord.  One cannot serve two masters (Luke 16:13).  "Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils." (I Cor. 10:21).  If any man continues in and lives a carnal life, he is of Satan.

The implication that once these people become Christians, as you say:  -
"who claim to be born again, blood-bought, holy spirit filled, etc. who regularly look at porn and excuse it on the fact that they are under grace and God will forgive them as long as they confess their daily failings with porn..." believing that they are saved and that they can't backslide, yet they regularly look at porn and confess their daily failings with porn - IS WRONG AND THEY ARE IN DANGER!

William, please understand, Christians can sin and they often do sin but to believe that a Christian can live any way he or she likes, and still be saved, is dangerous. Some argue that a 'real' Christian wouldn't commit these sins and it is the 'almost Christians' who fall for this type of entrapment from the enemy. I believe that would be wrong too. Committed Christians sin for all sorts of reasons and we are only saved by God's amazing Grace, not according to our level of commitment. God knows our true heart!  Now, if a Christian sins deliberately, daily watching porn, that is quite different from accidentally sinning - something we all do. 

William, the Lord knows every man's true intention, but this DOES NOT MEAN that God condones sin in a believer's life.  Yes, when we sin we confess them to the Lord which shows we acknowledge our wrong doing and the Holy Spirit works in our lives to keep us from committing the sin again and again.  But, to commit the same sin every day, over and over - something is wrong. We are all tempted daily.  Read I Cor. 10:13 which says: "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.".   So, we are all tempted to sin, but the Lord helps us and gives us a way to escape so that the believer will not sin.  Understanding, that sometimes there are weak moments and we willingly go ahead and sin.  Why?  Because - ".every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.  Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death." (James 1:14-15).  William, you just read that all are tempted, but, it's when a Christian YIELDS to HIS OWN LUST, then it IS SIN.

When a man is saved, accepting Jesus Christ and becomes a Christian, he gets a new nature (2 Cor. 5:17).  The Holy Spirit is now in the believer's life, giving him the means to overcome temptation and resist sin.  It's when the "old nature" begins to war with the "new nature", and the one we yield to is the ONE THAT CONTROLS US.  If one yields to the Lord's nature by obedience to follow the "Word" and fights the old nature, we can overcome it and sin less and less.  We have to - "Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.  Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all to stand.  Stand therefore, having your looins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.  And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God:" (Ephesians 6:11-17). 

As a true believer, one will hate sin and realize just how destructive it can be in that person's life.  The believer also understands that Jesus Christ had to suffer for every sin that we commit.  Therefore, the one who has truly accepted Jesus Christ as their Saviour will put on all the armour (as above) and fight sin daily, and if he fails confess it to the Lord, asking for forgiveness and strength to overcome all sin in his/her life.  Being that we are all sinners and in a daily battle of fighting the flesh, we must all hold fast and NOT yield to Satan's temptation and fiery darts.

Be on guard my friend and hold fast to His Word - fight the good fight and do not give in to Satan's temptations - for you have an escape by His Holy Spirit.  Stay in His Word and you won't sin deliberately.  Just don't believe everything these others say on the message boards.  Believe what the Word says, it is TRUTH!

In Jesus Christ,
Raymond

 

QUESTION:

 

SUBJECT:    HELP!

I  am trying to build a church in my neighborhood is their anyway your orgnazation could help with our church building fund.We are a very small group and your help would be greatly appreciated. May God Bless      Bro. Larry R. W. XXXXXXXX   Ms. XXXX

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello Larry:

 

If you are a Christian, you ARE the "church".  You would also know that the Lord, by the Holy Spirit, adds to the church - and if He needed a building (which He doesn't) He would give you the money to do it.  It's hard to believe (and I'm laughing out loud), but you don't even state what kind of "church" you want to build. It's interesting that you didn't state that it will be a Baptist, Protestant, Catholic, Muslim, Jewish or non-denominational?  Who will the head of your church be? 

 

Larry and Dawn, I'm not an organization, nor do I have money to donate to your church building fund, nor would I if I did.  If you are a small group, why aren't you meeting in homes?  You didn't once mention what you teach, or even if you teach the Word of God, Jesus Christ.  Larry, I'm sorry, but I couldn't even send you a dime.

 

Seek Jesus Christ first! 

In Him,

Raymond

 

QUESTION:     RE: Gospel of Christ 

 

Hello Charles:  Thank you for writing!  My answers to your questions are in blue as follows:



 

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ORIGINAL GOSPEL THAT WE FIND RECORDED IN SCRIPTURE ?

 

When did it change, and by what authority and where is the revelation for the PRESENT DAY GOSPEL everyone seems to be preaching and teaching ? "BELIEVE ONLY" ; "Receive CHRIST as your personal savior" ; "Lay your hands on the television, etc.". Emphasis on body healing, and forgetting that SIN is what separates us from God.

 

Many of the questions or statements in the above paragraph are true and I can agree with you.  First of all and most important is: the Gospel in Scripture NEVER changes, it is truth without any mixture of error (II Timothy 3:16; 1:13; II Peter 1:20-21), but it is man who adds to and subtracts from it, and peppers it with their own version.  Now, wouldn't one truly be wasting time in laying their hands on a TV?  I also believe that SIN is something that separates man from God.

 

We probably both agree that SALVATION IS A GIFT FROM GOD to man.  Man can never make up for his sin by self-improvement or good works.  Only by trusting and believing in Jesus Christ,  what He did for us through his death, as God's offer to us of forgiveness can man be saved from sin's penalty.  Eternal life begins the moment we receive Jesus Christ BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH, NOT OF WORKS, and NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY JESUS CHRIST - Romans 5:1, 6:23; Ephesians 2:8-9; John 14:6, 1:12; Titus 3:5; Galatians 3:26.



 

In the 2nd chapter of Acts, Peter, (one of the Apostles) preached the first gospel sermon and told a crowd of believers what they must do to be saved: ACTS 2:38-41 The command was to "REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS". Three thousand were saved that day doing what the Lord had commanded through Peter, and this was a promise to all future generations. The last verse of the chapter Acts 2:47 states by doing this the LORD ADDED THE SAVED TO THE CHURCH. (They did not join anything.) All of the churches established in the book of Acts consisted of saved people that were baptized and had their sins forgiven as the Lord commanded.

 

I understand well what these verses in Scripture say, and Peter continues in Acts 3:19 with: "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out."  Why doesn't Peter repeat the same thing about "be baptized" here?  He says nothing about water baptism here.  Therefore, if water baptism is a must and essential for the forgiveness of sins, he still didn't mention it in Acts 10:43 either: "To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins."  If water baptism is essential for salvation, then why did Jesus NOT mentioned it to His Apostles when He spoke to them in Luke 24:46-47 - ".Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem." - and He said nothing about water baptism?

 

In many instances Scripture refutes a man being baptized first for the remission of sin.  As I said above, baptism isn't mentioned in Acts 10:43 , please read Acts 10, concerning the account of Peter taking the gospel (which saves, Romans 1:16), to Cornelius and the Gentiles.  Cornelius stated that ".we are all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God." (verse33).and as Peter proceeds through the gospel message (vs. 34-43), the Scriptures relate that the gift of the Holy Spirit was received upon BELIEVING by the gentiles BEFORE they were baptized in water (10:44-48; 11:17-18).  The Word also teaches that this is the same way all are saved (Acts 11:15-`8, 15:7-11).  Again, as in Ephesians 2:8-9 - "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God; Not of works, lest any man should boast."

 

Charles, in the Book of Acts, what was required, the same as any person saved, is FAITH!  Jesus Christ's identification with believers is FAITH~see Acts 26:18 - "To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by FAITH THAT IS IN ME." We receive our spiritual heritage through HIM, by FAITH, NOT baptism.

 

Saul, later the Apostle Paul, was not saved on his journey to Damascus  when the Lord appeared to him, but was told to go into the city and it would be told him what to do. He was told by Ananias to "ARISE AND BE BAPTIZED AND WASH AWAY YOUR SINS CALLING ON THE NAME OF THE LORD"  Acts 22:16

 

Charles, Saul was saved and forgiven (sins washed away) BEFORE he was ever baptized in water, please, read all of chapter 22 of Acts.  As a result of meeting our risen Lord on the road to Damascus, Saul confessed with his mouth that Jesus was Lord when he said: "And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do." (Acts 22:10).  Saul's confession that Jesus Christ was Lord (above) was significant because the One who appeared to him had just revealed Himself as Jesus: "I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest." (Acts 22:8), the One Saul hated and persecuted His servants.  Yet, Saul knowing it was Jesus, immediately called Him LORD!  Compare I Corinthians 12:3 where ".no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost."  Even before Saul was baptized, he was filled with the Spirit (Acts 9:17).  Only the saved people are filled with the Spirit, not the unsaved.  Before he was baptized, Ananias referred to him as "Brother Saul" (Acts 9:17), as he recognized him as a brother in Christ.  Saul was cleansed spiritually 3 days prior to being baptized in water.  The water baptism was an outward sign of the WASHING AWAY OF HIS SIN which HAD ALREADY TAKEN PLACE ON THE ROAD TO DAMASCUS, 3 dayS prior to water baptism.


 

It seems everyone demands to be saved on their own terms and have no respect for the authority from heaven where it all originally came. IS " BAPTISM FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS "  FROM HEAVEN OR FROM MAN ?

 

You have misunderstood - and as in the above paragraph about Paul.  You can see that he was not baptized in water for the remission of sin, but was cleansed spiritually 3 days prior to his baptism.  We need spiritual baptism first, not of water first.  See I Corinthians 1:17 - as Paul said: "For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect."

 

Your above sentence "BAPTISM FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS" is contrary to the gospel.  If you were to say: "I'm being baptized today, even though I believed in Jesus Christ, I am not yet saved, and still in my sins, therefore, my sins can't be washed away 'til I'm baptized in water, because my salvation depends NOT ONLY on what Jesus Christ did for me, His work, BUT ALSO MY WORK of water baptism.  My salvation is NOT ONLY ON FAITH, but is CONDITIONAL on my being obedient to water baptism."   This is a perversion of the Grace of God - "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace.  But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." (Romans 11:6).

Charles, do you recall the conversation at the well, of Jesus with the woman of Samaria, in John, Chapter 4, where through her ignorance, Jesus instructed her by saying: ".If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water." (John 4:10).  It took the Samaritan woman awhile, but she finally understands that Jesus refers to water which is more than physical is made clear by 4:28, where she leaves her water pot behind.  Jesus assures her what He would have done for her if she had applied to Him:  "he would have given thee living water." By this living water is meant the Spirit, who is not like the water in the bottom of the well.  Does it not remind us that there are those who will trust Jesus Christ no further than they can SEE Him, and will NOT believe HIS promise, unless the means of the performance of it is VISIBLE, i.e., water baptism, other works, rules or traditions of men?  The woman at the well said unto Jesus: "I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things, Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he." (verses 25-26).  Christ had made himself known to her as the true Messiah.  Now, backing up to John 1:12-13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to that that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." 

Now, the Samaritan woman left her water pot behind and went into the city to tell others about this man, saying: "is not this the Christ?"  After listening to the woman, ".many of the Samaritans of that city believed on him for the saying of the woman, which testified, He told me all that ever I did." (vs. 39).  Then the Samaritans came unto him: ".they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days. And many more believed because of his own word;" (verses 40-41).  It doesn't say the woman or the Samaritans needed to be baptized in the water before they believed or received Him.  Were these not saved because they believed His Word?  These were saved!  They received the 'LIVING WATER" which is JESUS CHRIST!

BELIEF/ FAITH are part of salvation, and are included in the ORIGINAL GOSPEL which is The death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ 1 Cor. 15:1-4 ; Rom. 6:3-8

 

Charles, please notice in Romans 6:3-8 and I Cor. 15:1-4 that you mention above, that it doesn't say "baptized into water". The Lord's saving grace is found in the Person of Jesus Christ WHO ALONE can satisfy God's holiness and righteousness and be to those that believe in their heart, just as the Samaritans did: "He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life." (I John 5:12)
 

The books ( God's Word ) will be opened at the last day and we will be judged by what is written in  these books.  Rev. 20:12


 

Amen!  I pray that we both have wisdom from the Holy Spirit and may faith keep us in His Word. Again, thank you for writing!  Please, test the things I say by the Holy Spirit through Scripture, but look at all the verses which are in relation to only one verse. 

In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 

 

QUESTION:     RE: Gospel of Christ

 

Raymond,


There was no need to be baptizes in water for the remission of sins before Christ's death and resurrection. The commission was given by Christ himself before his death and his return to the Father (Mat. 28:18-20 / Mark 16:15-16). John baptized with water for the remission of sins to introduce the coming of Christ into the world for his earthly ministry.

 

The 2nd chapter of Acts, (The day of Pentecost), shows the foundation and beginning of the Church the Lord died for (Eph. 5:25). Peter was chosen as one the Apostles to preach the first Gospel sermon. If what Peter said here by inspiration on this day is not true, we have some very serious  problems with all of the Bible.

 

The scriptures seem to be the only book in the world that people love to twist and manage in every angle possible to fit their own belief. The truth will come when it is put in the proper context and taken just as it is written.

 

I can see by what you have written that you have spent a lot of time in your life trying to explain away water baptism, (which is what the majority of the world does), I hope you have that much 'luck' when you stand before God and try to explain it away.

 

Thanks, Charles

 

ANSWER:

 

Hello again Charles:

 

I believe you contradict yourself in your 1st paragraph when you say: "There was no need to be baptizes in water for the remission of sins before Christ's death and resurrection."  And then you say: "John baptized with water for the remission of sins to introduce the coming of Christ into the world for his earthly ministry." 

 

If that were true, as you said above, "no need to be baptizes in water for the remission of sins before." Christ,. then why does the Bible tell us WHAT John preached during his ministry? In Luke 3:3-6 it plainly tells us: "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;" and in Matthew 3:5-6: "Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan, And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins."  Again in Matthew 3:11: "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire."

 

What was John speaking of here?  The answer is I Corinthians 12:13: "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit." We are NOT baptized into the body of Christ by water. The Bible never says we are. It is Jesus Christ Who baptizes us into His body with the HOLY SPIRIT.

  

What did John's baptism require?  Repentance, Water and Confession of sin - See Mark 1:2-5: "As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.  The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.  John DID baptize in the wilderness, and preach the BAPTISM OF REPENTANCE FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS.  And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins."
 

Charles, there was an absolute need for John to baptize in water - yes, BECAUSE HE WAS MAKING THE WAY FOR THE SAVIOUR WHO WOULD BAPTIZE WITH THE HOLY GHOST, NOT WATER.  Once John was sent to prison, Jesus went about preaching "the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel." (Mark 1:17)  He said: "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.".Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John, Chapter 3:3, 5-6, 15-16).


<>Charles, please, keep reading after Ephesians 5:25 into verse 26: "as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it (HIS CHURCH) with the washing of water by the word (of HIS GOSPEL).  Jesus Christ said: "Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you." (John 15:3).  Like Christ, Paul put water and Spirit together, referring to the "washing of regeneration" and linking it with the "renewing of the Holy Ghost"; (Titus 3:5).  "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth." (James 1:18).  We are "born again" by the "Holy Spirit" and by the "Word of God", which is sometimes called "water" because of its cleansing power.  As Peter said, we are "born again.by the word of God" (I Peter 1:23).  What Peter said is truth - and I have no problem with the Word of God.  Perhaps you are finding it difficult to fully understand spiritually, as you are well informed by religion.  Your own words expose your religious teachings.

 

Charles, baptism is a sign to an unbeliever and an act of works on ones part, but it doesn't save us or wash our sins away.  Truth stands alone as fact, and it is the language of salvation. I do not have to spend a lot of time in explaining away water baptism.  The truth that has been given me by His Holy Spirit - on which I stand, and it was a gift from the Lord which I thank Him for.  I stand on the ROCK - JESUS CHRIST - THE FOUNDATION WHICH MY HOUSE HAS BEEN BUILT UPON.  Just as Jesus said:  "Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them I will shew you to whom he is like: He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock." 

 


In Jesus Christ,

Raymond

 
QUESTION:    RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH


 

CHARLES:  PLEASE SEE MY ANSWERS TO YOU IN BLUE AFTER EACH OF YOUR COMMENTS:


Raymond,

You do not rightly divide the Lord's word.  The Law of Moses was in effect until the death of Christ on the cross at which time it was taken out of the wa. (Col. 2:14 "He took it out of the way, nailing it to the cross") Which means the New testament begins with the book of Acts.

Charles, 2 Timothy 2:15, is applicable to all of us, and I can honestly say that this has been my aim as a workman that need never be ashamed - to rightly divide the word of truth.  Only by acting as Bereans, who Paul congratulated, can we hope to discern the genuine from the counterfeit, the truth from the lies which tickles ears.  And, if I were you, I would be ashamed to teach anything other than the truth of Scripture, for anyone who misrepresents, misinterprets, or adds to or detracts from God's Word has much cause to be ashamed.  Why?  Because no one can "rightly divide" the Word by studying religious commentaries or just believing what their religion/church says about the Word without ever studying to show oneself approved,.it is the Spirit of God that must give the interpretation.  Yes, the Word tells us that the Law was fulfilled by Christ.  Yes, Acts is the 1st Book of where the New Testament begins with the "church" (Christianity).

John's ministry was foretold by the prophets that he would introduce Christ and he did this by preaching a savior to come by baptizing in WATER UNTO REPENTANCE FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS. John lived under the LAW and so did Jesus Christ.

Acts 1:5 - "For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence."  Amen!

I wonder often why people do not accept Jesus' words and seek to prove that the one true baptism is of water and not Spirit.

John 1:33 - "And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost."

We see here, John says that the one, on which the Spirit descends and remains, is the one who will baptize with the Holy Ghost. Jesus went to John to be baptized with water. He went in; went down into the water; and as He came out the Spirit descended as a dove to mark (after Jesus death, resurrection and return to the Father) the end of water and the beginning of the Spirit baptism. 


No different than in Acts 2:38-41 (which you mentioned in another e-mail) that Jesus is our remission of sin and by His shed blood we are cleansed.  This is a spiritual NOT physical event in our life.  When we are told to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ we are being told to be immersed in HIM.  This is done when we are BORN AGAIN in the Spirit (John 3:3-12).

Jesus told his Apostles to go into the city and wait for the promise of the Father and they would receive power from above (Luke 24:49).  In the 2nd chapter of Acts. The Holy Spirit empowered the Apostles to speak the inspired Word of God and later record it in scripture as we have it today. The Apostles were Baptized with the Holy Spirit. (No one else.) This empowered them to speak in many languages to communicate with all the different nations that were gathered at this feast of Pentecost.

Yes, the Apostles received power through the Holy Spirit.  They were filled with the Holy Ghost, the same which fills ALL believers.

But, when you say: "No one else" is baptized with the Holy Spirit, it is absurd.  You have made a doctrine out of one verse.  You had better continue on in Acts -  if you actually believe that no one else was baptized with the Holy Spirit, what about other occasions in the book of Acts where speaking in tongues accompanied the receiving of the Holy Spirit - (Acts 2:4 [the disciples]; 10:44-46 [all them which heard the Word]; 19:6 [the Ephesian believers]).


The Bible clearly tells us that all Christians are a body of believers indwelt by the Spirit (I Cor. 12:13 - "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.".  Read Romans, Chapter 8, and clearly in Romans 8:9 - "Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."  Charles, it is the Holy Spirit alone who is our source of instruction, power, comfort and security.

Jesus promised the disciples would receive the Spirit, and they did in Acts 2, and since then, ALL believers have received the Spirit AT THE MOMENT OF THEIR CONVERSION.  One does not have to wait until they are baptized in water to receive the Holy Spirit.  He is there when they are converted - ready to teach and guide all who accept Jesus Christ.

The word Peter used for Baptism (Baptiso) in Acts 2:38 means the dip or plunge under, it has no reference to Holy Spirit Baptism. In this same passage it states that those that were baptized would receive The GIFT of the Holy Spirit, (not baptism of the Holy Spirit).

Charles, there is "no dip or plunge under" here - First , you MUST be a believer in Jesus Christ.  Only those who belong to Christ can be baptized in the Holy Spirit.

Charles, for all of you, like many cultists, who believe that water baptism is essential for salvation seem to make it a regular habit of using Acts 2:38 as scriptural support for water baptism.  Acts 2:38 is not the only verse in the Bible which deals with one's salvation, therefore, why ignore most of the New Testament teaching on salvation?  The only verses that such false teachers quote and reference are the ones they feel they can use to promote their "water gospel."  The fact is that most of what the New Testament says about salvation doesn't include baptism at all!  (John 5:24, John 11:25-26, John 14:6, Romans 4:5, Romans 10:9-13, Ephes. 2:8-9 and many more) and the few places that do mention water baptism do not include it as part of one's salvation.

Baptism in water in scripture is spoken of as "INTO" Christ. "For as many of you as were baptized (baptizo)  INTO Christ have put on Christ." (Gal. 3:27)

Charles, again you use another favorite scripture of false teachings on baptism.  Not every baptism addressed in scripture is a water baptism.  This is the case in Galatians 3:27.  So, how do Christians get baptized INTO Christ?  We only need to look at 1 Cor. 12:13 for the answer: "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body.."  This verse does not give us any indication at all that it is by water that Christians are baptized into one body, but rather it is by one spirit.  Yes, Verse 27 - "For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ."  Being baptized or placed INTO JESUS CHRIST is NOT something that man can do in the water, but it is something that ONLY the Lord can do for the believing heart.  "Therefore if any man be IN CHRIST, he is a new creature" (2 Cor. 5:17) - and HOW is this possible, to be a new creature?  By HIS GRACE are we saved and placed into Jesus the moment we believed on Him. 

Ephesians 4:5-6 also speaks about "one baptism" into "one body" of Christ.  This happens when we confess with our mouths ".the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." (Romans 10:9)  And, further, as Romans 10:10-11 states: "For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.  For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed."  Charles, this occurs the moment a person places all of his trust in Jesus Christ for his/her salvation.

Do you not know that as many of US that were baptized (baptizo)"INTO" Christ were baptized "INTO" his death. (Rom. 6:3) You notice Paul includes himself in this passage "US."

Charles, again, you use (baptizo) to mean" water baptism" as in your above statement prior to this comment.

Romans 6:3-5 doesn't say "baptized in water".  First, the many false teachings of the Churches of Christ, some Pentecostals, the Assemblies of God, the Catholics, Seventh Day Adventists, along with other "baptismal regenerationists", use this scripture in defense of their position, that Paul taught water baptism as necessary for salvation when he states: "Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?  And, the word "BAPTIZED" does not mean to immerse into water.  It is a fact that Paul mentions water baptism only one time in his epistles.  It's in I Cor. 1:13-17, and then he declares in vs. 17: "For Christ sent me NOT to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect."


The baptism that Paul taught was A BAPTISM INTO CHRIST.  And, once again, this baptism places the believer into the body of Christ - as in I Cor. 12:13 - and not by water - for the "baptizer" is not a man, but God the Holy Spirit.

What you have been taught according to your belief is that unless one is baptized in water, he/she has not died with Christ (by baptized INTO His death) and their sins are not forgiven.  NOT SO!  It is because the believer is united to Christ and the symbol of baptism is our death, burial, and resurrection.  Our baptism into Christ is the baptism that identifies the BELIEVER with the SAVING WORK OF THE CROSS.  The moment we trust in Jesus Christ as our Saviour, the Holy Spirit of God places us into Christ's death (the cross where our sins were paid for) and into His burial (payment is complete) and into Christ's resurrection (our new life in Christ).  This baptism is the WORK of the Holy Spirit, the same baptism that Paul teaches throughout his Epistles - Romans 6:35, I Cor. 12:13, Gal. 3:27, Ephes. 4:5, and Col. 2:10-13.   Our baptism INTO CHRIST is the basis for our forgiveness of sins.  This baptism (NOT of water) is the reality of all that God has accomplished in our behalf through His Son, Jesus Christ.  Anything added to our faith in Jesus Christ as a requirement for our salvation is nothing more than a WORKS BASED SALVATION.

There is no way in scripture to come in contact with the blood of Christ without being buried in watery grave of baptism as the Lord has commanded. (Scriptures are abundant)

Please, SHOW ME from Scripture, the ABUNDANT SCRIPTURES, where it says, AS YOU SAY IT SAYS,
"no way to come in contact with the blood of Christ without being buried in watery grave of baptism".  Again, I know where you are coming from, by your saying this - and this is a FALSE TEACHING, and you are in error because of it.  No where in the word does it say that the saved are exclusively the baptized, nor does it say the baptized are certainly saved, as this is nothing more than a false baptismal doctrine of the Churches of Christ and all other cults I mentioned above.  The false belief of the Church of Christ that says one can only come into contact with the blood of Christ is by being baptized - IS GARBAGE - PLUS A LIE OF THE "Churches of Christ" cult.

And to mention contradictions, this is one thing that cannot be found in scripture. If it says it in one place it does not contradict itself in another place.

Absolutely, the scripture does NOT contradict, yet YOU continue to contradict it by your like beliefs in that of the false Seventh Day Adventists, many Pentecostal groups including the United Pentecostal Church, and most of the cults including the Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and the Church of Christ (Russelites).  You are totally deceived by men and their false cults who try to attack the Scriptures with their own lies.

Salvation is by FAITH, CONFESSION, REPENTANCE, BAPTISM
FAITH
Rom. 10:17 "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God."
              Heb. 11:6  "But without faith it is impossible to please Him..."
CONFESSION: Rom. 10:10 ..."with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
REPENTANCE:Acts 2:38
BAPTISM: Acts 2:38

All of these work together to form a union with God and Christ. Trying to isolate one from the other or using part of these and to expect salvation is really worthless and futile.


I agree with the Scriptures above, but NOT your twisting and adding Baptism to one's salvation as you use Acts 2:38.  If Peter was saying (and he was not) that they had to baptized in order to be saved he would have violated the clear teaching of Ephes. 2:8-9 - "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."  This passage and others plainly state that one is not saved by works, which would include works, rituals, ceremonies, i.e. baptism, going to church, believing that one is a good person, etc.  The Bible does not teach that salvation is received by our good WORKS. 


All things in scripture must fit together. This must be the reason Jesus said there will be so few that find the way that is so strait and narrow.

How true!  And, if only you would believe what you just said.  It's when someone takes a certain thing in scripture to make it into a doctrine of their religious or cultish belief.  The Word of God is Spirit.  Jesus said in John 6:63 - "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." (John 6:63)  It is when the Word of the Gospel enters the heart that faith is born and this is the work of the Spirit.  It was the preaching of Jesus Christ that inspired faith in their hearts through His Gospel of which God approved by blessing them with His Spirit

"Enter by the narrow gate for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many that go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are FEW who find it" (Matt. 7:13-14).

My King James Bible which I use says: "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth by destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." (Matthew 7:13-14).


THE LORD DIED FOR THE CHURCH. Paul admonished the Elders of the church at Ephesus "To feed the Church of God which He (Christ) purchased with his own blood" Acts 20:28

Yes, Paul charged the elders at Ephesus with:  "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood." (Acts 20:28).  Amen!  Yes, feel them by the Holy Spirit Who teaches ALL men who ask.  Using the King James Version it goes a little further -Romans 10:13 - "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Besides, there was never an account given in the Scripture that says water baptism literally washes away sins.  It is the BLOOD OF JESUS that wash away sins according to the Word - ".the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin." (I John 1:7) - NOT water baptism!  Yes, "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;" (Acts 3:19).

This is the most important thing in the world, and to discuss things that are so basic that mean so much to the eternal destiny of the soul gets into the realm of being silly.
Charles

Yes, Charles, there is nothing silly about a man's salvation or telling him how he may find it, and the MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE WORLD IS A MAN'S SALVATION: TO BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.  When we keep in mind the foundation of truth is that man is UNABLE TO SAVE HIMSELF, but that SALVATION IS THE WORK OF GOD THROUGH HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST, then we are able to understand why it is said that we are JUSTIFIED BY GOD'S GRACE (Titus 3:7), JUSTIFIED BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST (Romans 5:9), and JUSTIFIED BY FAITH.  The Lord's Grace and the blood of Jesus Christ are two things beyond man's ability to manipulate.  We are "justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God: To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus."  (Romans 3:24-26).  Therefore, Charles, we are justified by God's action, not by any action of our own, such as being justified by Baptism.  Nay!  Also, to know and understand the truth of HIS WORD regarding one's salvation certainly is NOT BEING SILLY, BUT is believing in the clear TEACHING OF THE NEW TESTAMENT BY WHICH IT STRESSES THAT: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:  Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Ephes. 2:8-9).

The message of Jesus Christ is grace centered and offers salvation as a free gift, without cost, through faith in God's work through HIS SON rather than by man's work of works whether they be religious works or moral works, or the following of their religious traditions.  Read I Corinthians 1:30; John 4:10; Acts 8:20; Romans 11:6; 15:15-18; Revelation 21:6.  It's all there for you if you so desire to study to show yourself approved.

Many who pervert the gospel do not do so directly. They "back into" their heresy, little by little. Many begin by claiming to believe in salvation by faith in Christ, but then they insist on water baptism for sanctification. If salvation and sanctification are of one piece, then to pervert the one is to pervert the other. Let us be very careful not to pervert the Gospel!

Eternal life is YOURS for trusting in Him as God's only provision for your salvation, and regardless of what you have done or believed in the past, I urge you to acknowledge JESUS CHRIST as the ONLY basis for your eternal life.  He died on the cross for your sins.  He was raised so that YOU might live forever!  Know the true Jesus Christ today!  Be BORN AGAIN BY BELIEVING IN JESUS CHRIST!  Yes, repent of your sin and walk Christ every day of your life.  Come out of your false teachings before it is too late.   Amen!

In Jesus Christ,
Raymond

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TO WHOM  IT MAY CONCERN :    

  Questions and Answers About--- Mammon (MONEY) -

HOW SHOULD WE PRAY?-THY WIL BE DONE ?

   Questions And Answers: The Televangelist Investigations    

  by ALVIN HALL, JR.


Paul calls for us to "Prove all things; hold fast to that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil" (I Thes. 5:21,22).

Their  CHRISTIAN  MESSAGE should be able to withstand any scrutiny. Believers are called to "try the spirits, whether they are of God, because many false prophets are gone out  into the world" (I John 4:1). The TV evangelists have barged into our living rooms with their broadcasts and turned the spotlight on  THEMSELVES.                                                                                                        
THEY HAVE DEMANDED ATTENTION,    SO WE'RE GIVING IT TO THEM.

Were Jesus and the Disciples Rich or Poor?

 MATTHEW 6-19-24

LAY Not up for Yourselves Treasures Upon Earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt,  

and where thieves break through and steal: 20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.  22The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.  23But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!   24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye Cannot serve God and Mammon. (MONEY)

Was Jesus rich?  Did Jesus have a nice big house on a lake?

Did He wear designer clothes and Armani Suits?  Did Jesus wear designer shoes?  Did Jesus eat gourmet foods?  Did Jesus have a life of luxury?

2 CORINTHIANS 8 -9

9For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was Rich,   yet for your sakes he became Poor, that ye through his Poverty might be Rich.

MATTHEW  8 -19-20

19And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.  20And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the  air have nests; but the Son of man hath Not where to Lay his Head.

FIRST :  LET 'S COMPARE SCRIPTURE -- (THE WORD OF GOD)

PETER 1

20 Knowing this FIRST, that NO PROPHECY of the SCRIPTURE is  OF ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION

MANY OF YOU SAY THAT YOU ABIDE BY THE WORD OF GOD  

EXAMINE WITHIN YOURSELVES WHETHER YOU OBEY GOD'S WORD OR DO YOU FOLLOW MAN'S TRADITIONS ? AND THEIR PRIVATE INTERPRETATIONS

2 TIMOTHY 3


16 All SCRIPTURE is given by INSPIRATION of GOD and is profitable for Doctrine, for Reproof, for Correction,  for Instruction in Righteuosness

1 THESSALONIANS 5

21   P R O V E  all things; hold fast that which is good.

WILL YOU  seriously take the time to EXAMINE each QUOTE ?

I TOOK SERIOUS TIME TO STUDY :
Proverbs 28 (King James Version)

9He that TURNETH  away HIS EAR   from HEARING THE LAW ,  even HIS PRAYER shall be  ABOMINATION.  22He that HASTETH   to be RICH   hath an EVIL EYE  , and considereth not that POVERTY   shall COME UPON HIM .  23He that REBUKETH a man afterwards shall find more FAVOUR  than he that FLATTERETH with the TONGUE .

2 PETER 2

1 But there were FALSE  prophets also among the people, even as there shall be FALSE teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and  bring upon themselves SWIFT destruction.

CHECK OUT WHAT I SAY -  SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES

PEOPLE ARE BEING TAUGHT - GIVE TO GET !!!!!!  AND PAYING TITHES IS THE WAY TO RECEIVE MIRACLES FROM GOD!

ARE YOU FOLLOWING THE EXAMPLE JESUS AND HIS APOSTLES LEFT US?

WHY DO SO MANY SO CALLED HOLY GHOST FILLED MINISTERS  AND DECEIVED WOMEN MINISTERS CLAIM THEY HAVE THE REVEALATION OF CHRIST WHEN THEY ALL ARE FROM DIFFERENT FAITHS AND DENOMINATIONS – DIVIDED, MANY CLAIM THE SAME GOD TOLD THEM, TELL THE WORSHPPERS THEY MUST SEND MONEY TO RECEIVE A MIRACLE FROM GOD

TODAY'S MINISTERS :                                                                                                                    

HAVE MADE MERCHANDISE OF MANY BY SELLING TAPES, DVD'S, CASSETES, RIGHT IN THE CHURCHES OF GOD -OPEN YOUR EYES --WE ONLY NEED THE WORD OF GOD TO LIVE, NOT SOMEONES  BOOK OR TAPE GIVING THEIR PRIVATE INTERPRETATION ON HOW TO SERVE GOD,   JESUS IS THE WAY -  BOOKS AND TAPES FROM MEN ONLY INCLUDE PERSONAL IDEAS AND SELF INTERPRETATIONS MIXED WITH THE TRUTH. SOUNDS ( LIKE SATAN TO ME  )

PROVERBS 23:  

BUY the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

THE TRUTH SHOULD BE THE ONLY THING THAT WE SHOULD BUY !!!  BUT MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN MADE MERCHADISE BY THE VERY LEADER'S MANY OF YOU FOLLOW AND HAVE MADE RICH!      

2 PETER 2 CHAPTER:

1 But there were False Prophets also among the people, even as there  

shall be False Teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable

heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.


2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

3 And through Covetousness shall they with Feigned words make MERCHANDISE of You: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.


4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;


5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned  them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

1 CORITHIANS --4 - 6-16

6And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us Not to Think of Men Above That Which is Written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

7For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?

8Now ye are full, now ye are rich, ye have reigned as kings without us:  and I would to God ye did reign, that we also might reign with you.

9For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.

10We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised.

11Even unto this Present hour we both Hunger, and thirst, and are Naked,  and are Buffeted, and have no certain Dwellingplace;

12And Labour, Working with our Own Hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

 13Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.

14I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.

15For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

16Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.”

WHAT I HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH !  IS TO PROVE YOU HAVE BEEN

DECEIVED!  BY THE DEVIL- THROUGH FALSE TEACHINGS!

ACCORDING TO THE WORD OF GOD THESE MEN & WOMEN CANNOT BE FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT OF TRUTH

ACCORDING to Fred Price, John Avanzini, T.D. JAKES,

 Dr.
C. Thomas Anderson, Creflo Dollar, Larry Huch, Paula White, Kenneth Copeland, Oral Roberts,  Jesse Duplantis, John Hagee,  Ken Hagin, Bishop Eddie Long, and Juanita Bynum SAY:  Jesus was rich.

WHY do you think that some of them preach this unbiblical teaching?

Could it be to justify their million dollar homes, $2,000 suits, $80,000 cars, and multi-million dollar private jets?  Think about it my friend, is this kind of opulent lifestyle fitting for a man of the cloth?  [Marcus and Joni Lamb do not have an extravagant lifestyle, but they do support and preach this doctrine]

These men claim that the apostles were rich yet Paul says that they hunger, thirst, were naked, poor, and do not have a place to live.  They claim that Jesus had a nice big house on a lake yet Jesus Himself said that He had nowhere to sleep.  They claim that Jesus was rich and wore designer clothes yet Jesus said, "I did not come to be served, but to serve."


In the Hall of Faith in Hebrews 11 it says that these faithful men of God were destitute [Lack, Want, Suffer Need] and wandered in deserts and caves!  The apostle Peter said that he had neither silver or gold when he saw a man begging for money at the gate of the temple.

Whom will you Believe?  I pray that you choose to follow God over man.

In Deuteronomy 13:3, God says that He will test us with false prophets to see if we truly love Him, "You shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is testing you to find out if you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul."

WHAT THE WORD OF GOD SAYS ABOUT MONEY      

& Should Christians Pray, "Thy Will Be Done?"

ACTS 17 24

24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of

heaven and earth, DWELLETH NOT in TEMPLES made with Hands;
25 Neither is Worshhiped with Men's Hands as though he

Needeth Anything, seeing HE GIVITH to ALL life, and breath, and ALL THINGS;

26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face  

of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds

of their habitation;

27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find

him, though he be not far from every one of us:

28 For in Him we Live, and Move, and have our being; as certain also of your

own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

WE ARE THE TEMPLES OF GOD!!!!!!!! NOT CHURCHES AS MANY BELIEVE.

WE ARE THE CHURCH----- THE PEOPLE WHICH MAKE UP THE BUILDING OF CHRIST

1 CORINTHIANS 3- 16-23

16 KNOW YE NOT that ye are the TEMPLE of God, and that the

Spirit of God DWELLETH in YOU?


17 If any man defile the TEMPLE of God, him shall God destroy;

for the TEMPLE of God is holy, which TEMPLE ye are.


18 Let no man DECEIVE HIMSELF. If any man among you seemeth

to be WISE in this world, let him become a FOOL, that he may be wise.

19 For the WISDOM of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written,

He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.


20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise,

that they are vain.


21 Therefore LET NO MAN GLORY IN MEN.  FOR ALL THINGS ARE YOUR’S;


22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life,

or death, or things present, or things to come; ALL ARE YOUR'S;


23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

ACTS 17


2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with  

 them out of the SCRIPTURES,

11 These were more Noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with

all readiness of mind, and SEARCHED The SCRIPTURES Daily,

Whether Those Things Were So.

DO YOU HAVE A READY MIND TO SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES DAILY TO SEE WHAT I SAY IS SO ???????    OR NOT.  OR DO YOU BELIEVE YOU CANNOT BE DECIEVED??

YES EVEN (T.D. JAKES) CAN BE DECIEVED AND IN TURN DECEIVE MANY AND BOTH FALL INTO THE PIT

EZEKIEL 34

2 Son of man, prophesy against the Shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the Shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves!  should not the Shepherds feed the flocks?
                                                                                                                  
(THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE)

THE TRUTH WILL STAND FOREVER AND I CAN DO NOTHING

AGAINST THE TRUTH   -   THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

What Have We Learned Thus Far?

Titus 1:10-12

10For there are Many Unruly and Vain Talkers and Deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:

 11Whose Mouths Must be Stopped, who subvert whole houses,  teaching things which they ought not, for Filthy Lucre's sake. (MONEY)

   12One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, the Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.

    13This witness is true. Wherefore Rebuke them Sharply, that they may be Sound in the Faith;

   14Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men,  that turn from the truth.

   15Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

      16    THEY Profess that they know God; but in Works they Deny him, being abominable, and Disobedient, and unto every good work Reprobate.

Note: What a sad Day -- our shepherds are supposed to FEED the flock -- THEY are promoting men that deny the scriptures AND FEED THEMSELVES

1 TIMOTHY 6-5-6


5 Perverse disputings of Men of Corrupt Minds, and Destitute of the Truth, Supposing that GAIN is Godliness: From Such Withdraw Thyself.
6 But Godliness with Contentment is great GAIN.

PLEASE NOTE: THE FOLLOWING TEACHINGS - THESE ARE ACTUAL QUOTES  & TEACHINGS - MANY OF YOU FOLLOW THESE BELIEFS & LEADERS

WHY ?

ANYONE CAN CHECK OUT THE QUOTES FOR THEMSELVES.

IF YOU ARE SEEKING THE TRUTH ?

 I AM SHOWING YOU THE TRUTH

I AM NOT JUDGING ANYONE!  ONLY THE FRUIT

I will list some of these quotes that directly Contradict the Whole of Scripture:  Test your biblical knowledge with today's leaders.

1 TIMOTHY  2- 11---15

11Let the woman LEARN in silence with all subjection.  12But I suffer

NOT A WOMAN TO TEACH,  NOR TO USURP AUTHORITY OVER THE MAN, but to be in SILENCE   13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.   14And ADAM WAS NOT DECEIVED, BUT THE WOMAN BEING DECEIVED  WAS IN THE TRANSGRESSION.   15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith  and charity and holiness with sobriety.


JUANITA BYNUM


MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE JUANITA BYNUM WAS SENT BY

GOD!!  TO PROCLAIM THE TRUTH, AND PROPHESY THE TRUTH

LET'S SEE IF SHE SPEAKS THE TRUTH & WHAT GOD SENT HER

HER OWN WORDS--YOU EXAMINE J
UANITA BYNUM


"Because of the vastness of the corruption in our society, the Lord's work  

cannot be finished with just the male gender."

(Juanita Bynum, Article, "Women In The Pulpit," Julia Duin)

When Chicago evangelist Juanita Bynum went on a 21-day fast,  

she said the Lord informed her she would minister to the masses.  But when a Chicago minister invited her to speak before 4,000 people, she told God that all the female ministers she knew had been to Rhema or Oral Roberts universities.    "This is the

college I'm sending you through so you'll be well-schooled in who I am," she says

the Lord replied.

(Juanita Bynum, Article,  "Women In The Pulpit," Julia Duin)

"Every time I got on my knees I kept hearing Him [God] say,  

'Before I knew you I formed you in your mother's womb to be a prophet to the nations.'"

 (Juanita Bynum, Interview, Ministries Today, July-August 1999)

"And He [God] said, 'In order to be set free, in order for you to get  

your healing you got to get up and do something that defies the Devil.  And I got the

mic that morning Bishop Jakes, I had not been able to talk, had not been able to use

my voice.  And the power of God took me up in prayer and the Lord began to say,

'You will preach.  The Devil cannot shut the mouth of the prophet.  He said, Cuz the

book of Jeremiah says, Before I knew you.  Before you were born, in your mothers

womb.  I called you to be a prophet to the nations.'  And I'm only half-way there."

(Juanita Bynum, TBN July 6, 2004, T. D. Jakes was the host)


Note: Juanita Bynum spoke in tongues numerous without an interpreter.   This of course violates Scripture:


"If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most

by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.  But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God,"

1 Corinthians 14:27-28.

("Some of you watching and you might be saying, 'Let me pray about it and see if God

is talking to me.'  You don't have to see if God is talking to you if you got a $77.00 seed offering in any bank account or pocket.  He is talking to you.  You need to pick up the phone because I'm telling you, tonight there is an anointing in this studio with your name on it.  You need to get a seed into the network tonight.")

(Juanita Bynum, "Daystar Fall Share-A-Thon, " September 21, 2004)

"I'm going to get my seed in the ground because what I make happen  

for somebody else, God is going to make happen for me.  Pick up the phone!   I don't care if the lines are busy for half the night.  Keep on trying!  Put it on redial!  Put it on redial!  Tell the Devil that, 'I got an emergency!   I need something!  I need something from God and God needs something from me!'"   

(Juanita Bynum, "Daystar Fall Share-A-Thon,"  September 21, 2004)

"I got to say it one more time, 'The water is troubled.'  There's somebody watching--you better get your wallet, it's troubled!  You better shut your ears to the devil.  They said, 'Yeah, that's television--they just want some more money!'   No it isn't!  The Lord has sent a prophet to tell you, 'That tonight your divine release--it takes place tonight!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 8, 2005)

"If you can't believe God to release a seed for a $1,000.00,  

He'll never trust you with a million!  Oh my God!--I just said something.  If you can't trust God to provoke you to release a seed of $300.00 He'll never be able to trust you in a ministry!  Because this is your testing ground.  This right here is your proving ground!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 7, 2005)

"You're sitting there--all of your bills are due.  You're sitting there with a $300.00 seed.  When you don't even know that what you got in your hand is your favor.  You don't even know that your last seed--the seed that you give with pressure is your favor seed."

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 7, 2005)

PAULA WHITE

"And here's the key; some people keep goods that God has blessed them with for themselves.  It's not that God doesn't want you blessed.  You do a right thing at a wrong time.  Gehazi took of the treasure, took of the treasure of the Lord when Elisha was building a school for the prophets when he should have invested.  And so the principle here is if I take for myself when it's time to give to the kingdom I can bring a curse on myself."

(Paula White, "This Is Your Day, " Benny Hinn Show," July 23, 2004)

Note: Her commentary on Gehazi is dead wrong.  It speaks directly to people that fleece the sheep.  It has nothing to do with "investing" in the man of God as she teaches.  Why did Elisha refuse the money from Naman when God healed him if he wanted someone to invest in his school of prophets?

Here are two scriptures that deal with the sin of Gehazi, namely stealing money in the name of God from Naman when Elisha refused to accept any kind of money for what God had done:  In 2 Kings 5:15-27; Naman was healed by the great prophet Elisha and had offered him money in gratitude for his healing.  Elisha refused saying, "But he said, As the LORD liveth, before whom I stand, I will receive none.  And he urged him to take it; but he refused."

As a result of the treachery of Gehazi trying to making merchandise of God, he was struck with leprosy.  Elisha rebuked him with words that are so relevant today, "And he said unto him, Went not mine heart with thee, when the man turned again from his chariot to meet thee?  Is it a time to receive money, and to receive garments, and oliveyard, and vineyards,
and sheep, and oxen, and menservants, and maidservants?"

"And there are people right now that God spoke to and that's why God says, 'When you vow a vow to the Lord and if you take that for yourself it is very dangerous.'  There are people pastor Benny, I feel the anointing right now [Benny Hinn: I do too] and they don't even understand spiritually what they have done.  Because they have touched something holy.  What they vowed to the Lord, they said, 'Yes, Benny Hinn, I will support your crusades.  Yes, I will send you over.'  And you said to the nations,  'Here I come,' you said to the nations, 'I will go.'  Because they vowed a vow and then at a time they said, 'Well,' and took it to themselves and don't even understand spiritually the consequences.  But, even now God is giving revelation to say, 'Why sit there till you die?'  And God's going to give you a second chance.  And there's someone that needs to say, I feel the Holy Spirit saying, 'You need to be obedient to the first instruction of the Lord.'  The Lord spoke to you to support this ministry.  The Lord spoke to you to support the kingdom of God, to send that seed in.  And you even held back yourself and didn't even understand what the spiritual ramifications that happened."

(Paula White, "This Is Your Day, " Benny Hinn Show," July 23, 2004)

"When I invest in Benny Hinn Media Ministries, when I invest in this  

 ministry sacrificially then I have the right to place a demand on that anointing and to house it in my life."

(Paula White, "This Is Your Day, " Benny Hinn Show," July 23, 2004)

"When you make a covenant connection then you have a right to

demand the anointing.  I don't know who the Holy Spirit is speaking to but, obey it.  You need to sow a seed into this ministry!  You need to call the number on the screen.  You need to write the P.O. Box and you need to do what God has spoken for you to do!"

(Paula White, "This Is Your Day, " Benny Hinn Show," July 23, 2004)

Note: She actually teaches that if you give money you can "demand" the anointing that Benny Hinn has!  Where does the Bible teach that when you give money you can start demanding things from God?

JOYCE MEYER

"It's amazing to me how many people are jealous of the car I drive or the house I live in

or the size of my ministry...Don't be jealous of the fact that I fly my own airplane...But you know what I've noticed?  I've never had anybody who drives a car like mine be jealous of my car.  I've never had any other minister who has an airplane be jealous of my airplane.   

So you know we're really not mad at what other people have, we're mad because we don't have it!"

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 2 of 4 the "Mouth")

"Oh, shut up!  I mean there is not a one of you sitting out there

today if you were in full time ministry and you had an opportunity to have your own airplane rather than flying around commercial all of the time that you wouldn't have one too.  We are only jealous because we don't have what other people have!  And it's a rotten thing on the inside of us that God wants to get out."

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 2 of 4 the "Mouth")

Meyer then delivered her sermon for giving.  She told them that some Christians are worried that if they give it all, they will end up with nothing.  If they give, she said, “they can expect much more in return."

(Article on Joyce Meyer, 11/17/2003, St. Louis Post Dispatch)

 "Sowing and reaping is a law," Meyer told the Buffalo audience.   

"If you sow, you will reap.  I believe stingy people are very unhappy people.  I want you to give your best offering.  I believe one person could write one check to cover all of the expenses of this one conference."

(Article on Joyce Meyer, 11/17/2003, St. Louis Post Dispatch)

"God does not need our money.  The giving thing is not for Him,  

it's for us," Meyer told a Detroit audience in September.  "I should not have to work to try to support myself."

(Article on Joyce Meyer, 11/17/2003, St. Louis Post Dispatch)

"Joyce Meyer says God has made her rich.  Everything she has came from  

Him: the $10 million corporate jet, her husband's $107,000 silver-gray  

Mercedes sedan, her $2 million home and houses worth another  $2 million for her four children — all blessings, she says, straight from the hand of God..."If you stay in your faith, you are going to get paid," Meyer told an audience in Detroit in September.

"I'm living now in my reward."  Meyer is fond of nice things and is willing to spend for them. From an $11,000 French clock in the ministry's  Fenton headquarters to a $105,000 Crownline boat docked behind her vacation home at Lake of the Ozarks, it's clear her tastes run more to Perrier than to tap water.

The building is decorated with religious paintings and sculptures, and quality furniture. Much of it, Meyer says, she selected herself.

A Jefferson County assessor's list offers a glimpse into the value of many of the items: a $19,000 pair of Dresden vases, six French crystal vases bought for $18,500, an $8,000 Dresden porcelain depicting the Nativity, two $5,800 curio cabinets, a $5,700 porcelain of the Crucifixion, a pair of German porcelain vases bought for $5,200.

The decor includes a $30,000 malachite round table,  a $23,000 marble-topped antique commode, a $14,000 custom office bookcase, a $7,000 Stations of the Cross  in Dresden porcelain, a $6,300 eagle sculpture on a  

pedestal, another eagle made of silver bought for $5,000, and numerous paintings purchased for $1,000 to $4,000 each.

Inside Meyer's private office suite sit a conference table and 18 chairs bought for $49,000. The woodwork in the offices of Meyer and her husband cost the ministry $44,000.

Meyer drives the ministry's 2002 Lexus SC sports car with a retractable top, valued at $53,000. Her son Dan, 25, drives the ministry's 2001 Lexus sedan, with a value of $46,000. Meyer's husband drives his Mercedes-Benz S55 AMG sedan.

"My husband just likes cars," Meyer said.  The Meyers keep the ministry's Canadair CL-600 Challenger jet, which Joyce Meyer says is worth $10 million, at Spirit of St. Louis Airport in Chesterfield.

The ministry employs two full-time pilots to fly the Meyers to conferences around the world.

Security is important to Meyer, who says she has received death threats. She has a division of the ministry dedicated to her safety. Her officers wear

pistols; they guard the headquarters' front gate, keeping out anyone but employees and invited guests.

 The ministry bought a $145,000 house where the security chief lives rent-free to keep him close to the ministry's headquarters.

Since 1999, the ministry has spent at least $4 million on five homes for Meyer and her four children near Interstate 270 and Gravois Road,

St. Louis County records show.

Meyer's house, the largest of the five, is a 10,000-square-foot Cape Cod style estate home with a guest house and a garage that can be independently heated and cooled and can hold up to eight cars. The three-acre property has a large fountain, a gazebo, a private putting green, a pool and a poolhouse."

(Article on Joyce Meyers,   11/15/2003, St. Louis Post Dispatch)

JOYCE MEYERS TELLS US TO READ ANOTHER GOSPEL TO PUT   THE FEAR OF GOD IN US

"You want to read a book that will put the fear of God in you?  Go get Watchman Nee's book called "Spiritual AUTHORITY' " He says the number one job that every believer has when they walk into a room is to find

who is in authority and immediately make a decision to come under that

authority."

(Joyce Meyer, "Enjoying Everyday Life,"  TBN, August 16, 2005)

Note: "A second way control finds its way into a Christian setting is through a false teaching of the biblical doctrine of submission to spiritual leaders...This false teaching came into American churches through Watchman Nee and his book Spiritual Authority. Nee says on page 71,

 “If God dares to entrust His authority to man, then we can dare to obey.  Whether the one in authority is right or wrong does not concern us.  The obedient one needs only to obey.  The Lord will not hold us responsible for any mistaken obedience, rather He will hold the delegated authority responsible for his erroneous act.

In addition, he states, "We should not be occupied with right or wrong, good or evil; rather should we know who is the authority above us" (page 23).

WHAT DOES THE WORD OF GOD SAY ABOUT THAT ?

ECCLESIASTES 12

13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:  FEAR God, and keep his commandments:

for this is the whole duty of man.
Galatians 1

6I marvel that ye are so soon removed from  him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:     7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.   8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than  that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.   9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.  10For do I now persuade men, or God?  or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

GODS WORD SAYS:

2 PETER 3 -16  

16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things HARD to be UNDERSTOOD, which they that are UNLEARNED and UBSTABLE wrest, as they do also the other

SCRIPTURES, unto their OWN DESTRUCTION.

MARK 7-6-23

.6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites,

 as it is written, This people HONOURETH me with their LIPS, but their HEART is far from me.

 7Howbeit in VAIN do they WORSHIP me,  TEACHING for doctrines the commandments of MEN.

 8For LAYING ASIDE the COMMANDMENT of GOD, ye HOLD the TRADITION of MEN, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

 9And he said unto them, Full well ye REJECT the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

 10For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:

 11But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother,  It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever  thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.

 12And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;

 13Making the WORD OF GOD of NONE EFFECT through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

JOYCE MEYER STATES THAT POVERTY IS A SPIRIT AND STINKS

"Poverty is probably one of the most unique spirits to watch.  You can watch a spirit of poverty take over an entire neighborhood...And almost always with a poverty spirit, comes a spirit that just stinks.  I mean, a poverty spirit just plain stinks.  When I get people at the altar that got a poverty spirit on them they almost always have bad breath and body odor."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, page 6)

WHAT DOES THE WORD OF GOD SAY?

2 CORINTHIANS 8

9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was Rich, yet for your sakes he became POOR, that ye through his Poverty might be rich.

REVELATION 3

17 Because thou sayest, I am Rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and POOR, and blind, and naked:

DID JESUS STINK ?  GOD FORBID

JOYCE MEYERS CLAIMS MAYBE GOD DID NOT TELL EVE NOT TO EAT THE FRUIT AND IT WAS MAYBE ADAMS FAULT

"The blame game started in the Garden.   

Adam blamed God, 'The woman you gave me.'  You know what?  Adam was the head of  the house, if he was standing there why didn't he say something?  Why didn't he say something?   Why didn't he do something?  I'm not taking that rap anymore [Cheers]!

You know the Bible doesn't even necessarily say that God told Eve not to eat of that tree.  He told Adam.  Maybe Adam didn't tell Eve,  I don't know."

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 4 of 4 the "Attitudes")

Note: The Bible clearly shows that Eve knew that her and Adam shouldn't eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and the Bible also says, "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."


"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.  But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.  For Adam was first formed, then Eve.  And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression,"   1 Timothy 2:11-14.

Also, if nobody told Eve not to eat of "that tree" how did she know not to eat of it?

"And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:  But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die," Genesis 3:2-3.



T.D. JAKES


T.D. JAKES PREACHES "WOMAN THOU ART LOOSED"

BUT WHOM ART THOU LOOSED FROM - CERTAINLY NOT THE DEVIL

MANY FOLLOW HIS FALSE TEACHINGS AND BELIEVE HE IS SENT BY GOD

T.D JAKES OWN WORDS:  TD JAKES CLAIMS HE IS A PRODUCT

“I think that Jesus is the product,” says author and televangelist  T.D. Jakes, who is currently bishop at The Potters House, a primarily African-American Pentecostal church in Dallas.  “When the product is excellent, it doesn't require a big sales pitch.”

(MSNBC News, "Do God and money mix?"  March 31, 2005)



Note: Jesus is a product?  Jesus is Lord of lords and Kings of kings- -the creator of all things.  Jesus is not a 'product' nor should He be compared to one.

“We believe that it is God’s will to heal and deliver His people today as He did in the days of the first Apostles.  It is by the stripes of Jesus that we are healed, delivered and made whole. We have authority over sickness, disease, demons, curses, and every circumstance in life."

(T. D. Jakes Doctrinal Statement, website.)
 
Note: He wears glasses yet believes that we shouldn't be sick.  Why are his eyes sick?

TD JAKES SAYS:  “The Myth of the Poor Jesus Needs to be Destroyed, because it’s Holding People Back.”

 (Kaylois Henry, “Bishop Jakes Is Ready. Are You?,” The Dallas Observer magazine, June 20-26, 1996, pg. 31.  PFO Quartely Journal Article)

"Jakes told those gathered that they have to go and claim the inheritance that God has promised them and know that it's theirs.  And then he addressed critics who fault him for profiting from "selling religion."  'You can't get upset with me, because I choose to claim what God has promised me,' he said.  'Don't get upset with me!  Don't hate the Player; Hate the Game,' a revved up Jakes yelled over cheers."

(T. D. Jakes, "T.D. Jake enthralls with energetic oratory, " Denver Post.com")

FATHER     JOHN PAUL II      THE POPE

Bishop T. D. Jakes Statement

"His Holiness, John Paul II was truly a dedicated and courageous

messenger of God.  His legacy will be a model that all of us should follow.   His Holiness was not only a leader of the church, but also a leader of the world. His life was an example everyone can learn from.  His mission to spread the Good News of faith throughout the world, and his dedication to human rights was an inspiration."

(T. D. Jakes, "Bishop T. D. Jakes Statement on The Passing of Pope John Paul II")

Note: What kind of gospel does the Catholic Church teach?

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH  CALLS  MAN  FATHER

AND TD JAKES SUPPORTS THAT DOCTRINE HE CALLS THE POPE HOLY

"Don't deny me my joy you Player Hater you...How dare you sit there  

and roll your eyes and pass notes when you see me get my breakthrough!  you wasn't there when I was in hell's kitchen coming out with some smoke in my coat."

(T. D. Jakes, "Spellbreaker," Tape from his ministry)

"I was staying in a little raggity house down in Dunbar West Virginia and the lights were half way on and half way off most of the time.  And the roof was leaking and everything and one night I got

up and started walking around in my house and I spoke to the house.  And I said, 'House, I don't believe you!'  I said, 'You look like I'm down and you look like I'm broke and you look like I'll never be anything.  And you look like I'll never get up and you look like I'm bound to the ghetto.  But, I just want you to know house, I don't believe you!  You're lieing to me!  You're not who I am and you're not where I'm going and I don't believe You!'

 I believe that the word that is in me is stronger than the circumstances that are against me.  Ah, you all aren't hearing what I'm talking about.  You got to start talking to situations or they will take over your life."

(T. D. Jakes, "The Bone Collector Part II,"  TBN, August 12, 2004)

"Oh!  I wish you would sit there and look funny!  I wish you would

act like you always choose the right door!  I wish you would get quiet.  I dare you to get quiet on me!  I'll start prophesying and tell all your business!  You got 12 doors in front of you now!  You better say something before I go off!  I will go off!  I will go off!...I wish you would jump on me!  I'll fight everything in here!"

(T. D. Jakes, "Don't Get lost In The House,"  From the series "Home Remedies" TV1 Direct T.V. Channel 241.  May 1, 2005)

"My God!  I'm preaching, I think I'll get my own tape this morning."

(T. D. Jakes, "The Invisible King," TBN June 27, 2004)

"Ya'll don't hear what I'm preaching.  I'm preaching so good I'm about to 'Amen' myself!  Oh!...Oh God!  I'm preaching good!  Hallelujah!"

(T. D. Jakes, "Give it up, Have it All II," TBN, April 15, 2005)

"Oh!  That's good!  I may have to get this tape myself!"

(T. D. Jakes, "Mega Fest 2005," The Church Channel, August 18, 2005)

"This tape is so good I'm going to buy this one myself!"

(T. D. Jakes, "Reality Check," From the series "Fight For The Family."  TBN August 19, 2005)

"Oh dear!  I'm going to buy this tape myself.  Give me two tapes!

 Hold two tapes in the back."

(T. D. Jakes, "Dealing With The Unexpected," TBN, November 28, 2004)
 
Note: Pride is one sign of many that a False Teacher possesses (1 Timothy 6:4; Jude 8-19; 2 Peter 2:10-18).

"You're entitled to have wellness in your body.  Stop begging for what you're entitled to."

(T. D. Jakes,  "God Never Meant For You To Lose,"  TBN, July 29, 2004)

“Jakes, who drives a Mercedes, has moved with his wife and their five children to a luxurious seven-bedroom home with swimming pool in the White Rock Lake area of Dallas.  He said the home cost more than $1 million. ‘I do think we need some Christians who are in first class as well as coach,’ Jakes said.”

(The Fort Worth Star Telegram reports.  PFO Quartely Journal Article)

"Jakes lives with wife Serita and their five children in a

Dallas mansion, complete with an indoor swimming pool and bowling alley...And while  

some accuse Jakes of being driven by the dollar and not the divine - his transportation stable consists of a Mercedes-Benz, a Bentley, a BMW, a Lexus and a jet...Indeed, during MegaFest's kickoff, Jakes mentioned his sponsors more than he mentioned God.  During the worship service, dozens of Potter's House ushers sprinted throughout  the Georgia Dome, collecting purple duffel bags full of money and checks made out to T.D. Jakes Enterprises...The pastor says his income comes from his media enterprises, not from church tithes.  And he dismisses such questions as having racist overtones."

("Building an empire to empower ," T.D. Jakes may lead a Dallas mega-church, but that's not all he does.

By Annette John-Hall, Inquirer

Staff Writer, Philedelphia Inquirerposted

(August 22, 2005)

"The Jakeses and their five children live in a 9,689-square-foot mansion on White Rock Lake, appraised at more than $3.3 million.  He loves to shop and wears exquisitely tailored suits and expensive shoes.  He owns a jet.  "Anybody who has sold 8 million books shouldn't have to justify why they live in a nice house," Bishop Jakes said."

(T. D. Jakes, Fort Wayne.Com, "Preacher extends his reach with film, but some fault posh lifestyle")
 
Note: That may be true for an unbeliever, but what about for a man of the cloth living in a multi-million dollar house?

“I drive a: "Lexus and Bentley"

(T. D. Jakes, Fort Wayne.Com, "Preacher extends his reach with film,

but some fault posh lifestyle ")


CREFLO DOLLAR


CREFLO DOLLAR CLAIMS JESUS WAS NOT PERFECT AND JESUS WAS RICH

HE PLAINLY DENIES THE DIETY OF CHRIST

CREFLO IS AN ANTICHRIST

1 JOHN 2

18 Little children, it is the Last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even now are there many Antichrists;  whereby we know that it is the last time.  22 Who is a liar but he that Denieth that Jesus is the Christ?   He is ANTICHRIST, that Denieth the Father and the Son.

1 JOHN 4

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the Flesh is Not of God: and this is that Spirit of ANTICHRIST, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even  

Now already is it in the World.

2 JOHN 1

7 For many Deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.    This is a deceiver and an ANTICHRIST.

HOW MANY PEOPLE FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS?

EXAMINE HIS OWN WORDS:

CREFLO DOLLAR:

“I'm telling you, Jesus Wasn't Poor, and He didn't wear no rags, either.

Like we march in on these Easter little plays that we do at our church, with those raggedy sheets on.  Jesus didn't have no rags on.  He wore designer clothes, honey!"

(Creflo Dollar Crusade, Feb. 9, 1999.    Bob Hunter, "Contenders")

CREFLO CLAIMS JESUS HAD TO GROW INTO PERFECTION  

& JESUS DID NOT KNOW ABOUT FIG TREE

BUT FIRST:

LET'S SEE  WHAT THE WORD SAYS AND WHAT JESUS KNEW

 JOHN 8

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,   BEFORE Abraham was,

I AM.

1 COLOSSIANS

15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:   16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers:  all things were created by him, and for him:  17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.    18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.  19For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; 20And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.  21And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled 22In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

"But Jesus didn’t show up Perfect.  He grew into His perfection.  You know Jesus - one scripture in the bible - he went on a journey, he was tired.  You better hope God don’t get tired.  Isaiah 50 says, 50, 60, somewheres says where we have a God who fainteth not, neither is wearied? But Jesus did.  If He came as God and he got tired; He says he sat down by the well because he was tired.  Boy we’re in trouble."

(Creflo Dollar, "Jesus' Growth into Sonship,"  December 8, 15, 2002, Product Number: 3422093, 3132094)

"And somebody said, well, Jesus came as God!  Well, how many of  you know the Bible says God never sleeps nor slumbers?   And yet in the book of Mark we see Jesus asleep in the back of the boat.   Please listen to me.  Please listen to me.  This ain’t no Heresy.   I’m not some False Prophet.  I’m just reading this thing out to you of the Bible. I’m just telling you, you all these fantasy preacher have been preaching all of this stuff for all of these years and we bought the package!"

(Creflo Dollar, "Jesus' Growth into Sonship,"  December 8, 15, 2002, Product Number: 3422093, 3132094)

"Somebody said, 'Well, Jesus knew all things.'  Well, what happened to that fig tree situation?  Seeing a fig tree far off, He saw leaves on the  fig tree and thought if happily He might come to that fig tree and eat of that fig tree.  But when He got there He saw that there were no figs on that tree. Well, wait a minute!  Ha, ha, we better, we better hope God knows when figs are on a tree!  [Amen's and laughs]

But Jesus didn't come as God!  He came as a man!  Because, if Jesus came as God He would have known figs were on a fig tree without having to see the leaves on the fig tree!"

(Creflo Dollar, "Jesus' Growth into Sonship,"  December 8, 15, 2002, Product Number: 3422093, 3132094)

“Think of God's blessing this way.  It's His ability on your ability.  It gives you the ability to do what you could not do before...The question is, what does the blessing make rich?  Whatever is needed at the time.  For example, when the blessing shows up in a poor man's life, it maketh him rich with money...The blessing is a positive force...That's why you can't afford to associate with folks who aren't  blessing-minded.   By this I mean, those who allow the spirit of poverty to operate in their lives.  They are the ones who always have the poor, nothing-ever-seems-to-go-right-for-me mentality.  Instead of looking for the blessing, they confess curses over their lives and see the results."

 (Creflo Dollar, "You Have the Blessing!" Article C-Faith)

"Debt has become an acceptable way of life for most people.    

Unfortunately, due to this mindset, they will remain in bondage to it.  To eliminate debt from your life, you must change the way you  think about it. God does not want anyone to be in debt; however, if you are in over your head, He has a way to deliver you out of it once and for all...Rest assured that God has a way for you to get out of debt, but it's up to you to take the time to hear from Him and then follow His instructions...What does the Bible mean by "God's way" when it concerns money?  The parable of the sower, or farmer, in Mark 4:11-29 reveals the answer to this question.  Basically, a farmer sows seed to produce a crop that will ultimately be sold.  From the proceeds of the sale, he is then able to pay his bills and feed his family.  You could say that he has to sow to make a living.  Likewise, a sower (one who gives to the kingdom of God above his or her tithe) sows seed (money) for a living.  I encourage you to become a sower who gives to live and lives to give...This is God's way of doing things.  Before a farmer can harvest a crop, he  first has to sow seeds. Likewise, before you can receive, you must give.  If you want to get out of debt, stop looking at the world's way of debt cancellation.  Look to God's way of seed time and harvest.  Sowing into the kingdom of God unleashes an awesome force.  You may not start off giving large amounts of money, but the $5, $10 or $20 you sow will release God's unlimited power toward your debt reduction."

(Creflo Dollar, "Debt Freedom God's Way," Changing Your World Magazine, January 2004)

JOHN AVANZINI

You don't think these Apostles didn't walk around with money?   I mean, they had money...Paul had the kind of money that people,   that government officials, would, would block up justice to try to get a bribe out of old Paul."

(John Avanzini, "Believers Voice of Victory," TBN, January 20, 1991.   Hank Hanegraaff, "Christianity in Crisis" page 382)

“While on earth Jesus was Wealthy.  He lived in a Big House, had a
Great deal of Money, and wore the Finest Clothes"
(John Avanzini, TBN broadcasts, "Christianity in Crisis," Hank Hanegraaff, page 381-82)

"Jesus had an expensive ministry."
(John Avanzini, Praise the Lord, TBN, September 15, 1988)

"John 19 tells us that Jesus wore Designer Clothes. Well, what else you gonna call it?  Designer clothes - that's blasphemy.  No, that's what we call them today.  I mean, you didn't get the stuff He wore off the rack.  It wasn't a one-size-fits-all deal.  No, this was custom stuff.  It was the kind of garment that kings and rich merchants wore.  Kings and rich merchants wore that garment.

(John Avanzini, "Believer's Voice of Victory" TBN January 20, 1991).

NOTE: JOHN 19  DOES NOT SAY WHAT JOHN AVANZINI SAID.  READ IT FOR YOURSELF: THEY PUT ON HIM A PURPLE ROBE

JOHN 19

1Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and scourged him.    2And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they Put on him a Purple Robe,

5Then came Jesus forth, wearing the crown of thorns, and the purple robe. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold the man!

23Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.

24They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.


FRED PRICE


FRED PRICE CLAIMS WE SHOULD NOT SAY:  IF THY WILL BE DONE

AND JESUS WAS RICH

HOW MANY PRAY LORD--- IF THY WILL BE DONE ?

IS FRED PRICE FILLED WITH THE TRUTH ?

EXAMINE HIS OWN WORDS:


"If the mafia can ride around in Lincoln Contintal town cars,  why can't the King's Kid's?"

(D. R. McConnell, A Different Gospel,  page 174. Fred Price, "Faith,  Foolishness, or Presumption?" page 34)

"King's Kid's ought to ride Rolls Royces."

(D. R. McConnell, A Different Gospel, page 174. Fred Price, "Faith,  Foolishness, or Presumption?" page 28)

"If you've got one-dollar faith and you ask for a ten-thousand-dollar item, it ain't going to work.  It won't work.  Jesus said, "according to your faith," Not according to God's Will for you, in His Own good time, if it's according to His Will, if He can work it into His busy schedule”

[see him mocking God and mocking the concept of God's will].

He said, "According to your faith, be it unto you."  Now, I may want a Rolls Royce, and don't have but bicycle faith.   Guess what I'm going to get?  A bicycle."

(Dr. John MacArthur, "Charasmatic Chaos,"  page 349.  Fred Price, "Praise The Lord," TBN, September 21, 1990)

"What they told me to do was that Whenever I Prayed  I should always Say,  

The will of the Lord be done,'  Now, doesn't that sound humble?   It does.  Sounds like humility, it's really stupidity. I mean, you know, really, we insult God.  I mean, we really do insult our Heavenly Father.  We do; we really insult Him without even realizing it.  If you have to say, 'If it be thy will or Thy will be done' if you have to say that, then you're calling God a fool because he's the One that told us to ask."

(Fred Price, "Ever Increasing Faith" TBN November 16,1990.   Hank Hanegraaff, "Christianity in Crisis" page 384)

"Before I came into knowledge of the things of God, I thought that it was a mark of humility to end a prayer with, "Lord, if it be Your Will."

The fact that I said, "If It Be," meant that I did not know what God's will was.  If you do not know God's will, you are not praying in faith.  If you are not praying in faith, your prayer is not going to be answered.   God's will is in His Word.  If you put, "If it be," on the end of a petition prayer, it will not be answered."

(Dr. Fred Price, "What Every Believer Should Know About Prayer," Weekly Message August 1- August 8, 2005.  His website)

LET'S SEE WHAT THE WORD SAYS:

MATTHEW 6


7But when ye Pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.    8Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.    9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.  10Thy kingdom come, Thy WILL BE Done in earth, as it is In heaven. 11Give us this day our daily bread.    12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.    13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:  For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

"If It Be Thy Will' is a Badge of Doubt."

(Hank Hanegraaff, "Christianity in Crisis" page 286.  Fred Price,  "Petition Prayer or the Prayer of Faith," pamphlet 1991)

"If you put, 'if it be' on the end of a petition prayer, it will not be answered."

(Hank Hanegraaff, "Christianity in Crisis" page 286.  Fred Price, "What Every Believer Should Know About Prayer," page 4)

"I  Believe the  Lord's  Prayer' is Not for Christians Today."

(Hank Hanegraaff, "Christianity in Crisis" page 286.  Fred Price,  "Personal Letter,"

14 October 1992)


"Most employers at least have enough common decency about them that they don't ask somebody to work for them for free.... If a man has enough nicety about him to do that, can't you at least believe that the Father God is not asking you to serve Him for free either?"
(Fred Price, "Faith, Foolishness, Presumption," page 7)

"The whole point is I'm trying to get you to see-to get you out of this malaise of thinking that Jesus and the disciples were poor and then
relating that to you thinking that you, as a child of God, have to follow Jesus. The Bible says that He has left us an example that we should follow His steps. That's the reason why I drive a Rolls Royce.  I'm following Jesus' steps."   (Hank Hanegraaff, "Christianity in Crisis" page 346.  Fred Price, "Ever Increasing Faith," TBN December 19, 1990)

EDDIE LONG

Jesus Wasn't Broke, and leaders of churches shouldn't be either.

That's what Bishop Eddie Long, who heads Georgia's biggest church,  

has to say in defense of his grand lifestyle, funded largely by the nonprofit religious charity he started in 1997.

According to tax records, Bishop Eddie Long Ministries, Inc. provided him with more than $3 million in salary and benefits, including a $1.4 million 20-acre home and use of a $350,000 Bentley.  Long also received more than $1 million in salary, including $494,000 in 2000...

Long says he represents a "paradigm shift" in the black church, and that any problems people have with his charity stem from people's expectations that pastors should be poor.  He said his congregation is inspired by seeing its pastor do well.  "I'm not going to apologize for anything."

("Megachurch pastor biggest beneficiary of charity he founded,"  The Associated Press - LITHONIA, Ga.  August 29, 2005)


BENNY HINN


BENNY HINN CLAIMS JESUS HE IS SENT BY GOD

BENNY HINN ALSO CLAIMS JESUS WOULD SHOW UP IN SOME CHURCH MEETINGS TO TELL US HE IS ABOUT TO RETURN

LET'S SEE WHAT THE WORD SAYS:

MATTHEW 24


36 But of that day and hour Knoweth No Man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father ONLY.

REVELATION 1

7 Behold, he Cometh with CLOUDS;  and Every Eye Shall See Him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

EXAMINE BENNY HINNS OWN WORDS:

"...Never, ever, ever go to the Lord and say, 'If it be Thy Will…'  

Don't allow such faith-destroying words to be spoken from  your mouth.  When you pray "if it be your will, Lord," faith will be destroyed.   Doubt will billow up and flood your being. Be on guard against words like this which will rob you of your faith and drag you down in despair."

(Benny Hinn, Rise And Be Healed, pg 47-48.)

"I’m sick and tired of hearing about streets of gold [in heaven].

I don’t need gold in heaven, I’ve got to have it now...But if I hear the thing one more time of how it will be and how it was,  I'm gonna kick somebody."

(Hank Hanegraaff, "Counterfeit Revival," page 120.  Benny Hinn,  Praise the Lord Show, Trinity Broadcasting Network, Dec. 9, 1990)

"The Holy Ghost is upon me...The day is coming when those that attack us will drop dead.  You say, 'What did he say?' I speak this under the anointing of the Spirit.  Can I tell you something? Don't touch God's servants; it's deadly...Woe to you that touch God's servants.   You're going to pay.  'And the day will come.' The Lord said that to me.   He said, 'The day will come when I will punish instantly.  Woe to those who touch my chosen.'  They will fear us.  Hear this: today they mock us;  tomorrow they will fear us."

(Hank Hanegraaff, "Christianity in Crisis" page 336.  Benny Hinn, "Miracle Invasion Ralley," Anaheim Convention Center November 22, 1991)

"Now hear this--I'm prophesying this: Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is about to appear physically in some churches and some meetings and to many of his people for one reason--to tell you he's about to show up."

(Hank Hanegraaff, "Counterfeit Revival," page 22.     Benny Hinn, Praise-A-Thon,

TBN, April 2, 2000)

"Prosperity has a whole different meaning now out there.  In many circles it means money, big cars, big homes, it means wealth, earthly, worldly wealth.  That's not biblical."

(Benny Hinn, 700 Club, September 10, 1993.   Many Faces Of Benny Hinn DVD )

"Preachers who live in big homes and drive big cars ought to re-examine their calling."

(Benny Hinn, speaking at his church in Florida.  "Many Faces Of Benny Hinn DVD")

Note: How does this apply to Benny Hinn's $10 million dollar home in California?  How does this apply to Benny Hinn's two big cars valued at  

over $80,000 each?

According to building records Hinn's house has seven bedrooms and eight bathrooms.  According to documents the ministry pays more than $112,000 a month for Hinn's private jet.

(Source: Dateline NBC)

"Job's mouth was his biggest problem."

(Hank Hanegraaff, "Christianity in Crisis" page 97.  Benny Hinn, "TBN,"

November 3, 1990)

"You know what?  We've said this a million times and it's not even  

 scriptural--all because of Job: 'The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.

Blessed be the name of the Lord.'  I have news for you: that is not Bible,  that's not bible.  The Lord giveth and never taketh away.  And just because he said, 'Blessed be the name of the Lord,' don't mean that he's right.  When he said, 'Blessed be the name of the Lord,' he was just being religious.  And being religious don't mean you're right."

(Hank Hanegraaff, "Christianity in Crisis" page 98. Benny Hinn,  "TBN," November 3, 1990)

Does Benny Hinn Blaspheme God?

"Those who put us down are a bunch of morons...You know, I’ve looked for one verse in the Bible, I just can’t seem to find it. One verse that says, ‘If you don’t like ’em, kill ’em.’  I really wish I could find it...Sometimes I wish God would give me a Holy Ghost machine gun — I blow your head off!"

(Benny Hinn on TBN’s “Praise-A-Thon,” April 1990.  "Many Faces Of Benny Hinn DVD")

Does Benny Hinn's Wife Blaspheme God?

"If your engine is not revving up, you know what you need?   You need a Holy Ghost enema right up your rear end..


Be God-pleasers, don’t be people-pleasers.  Because if you’re a  people-pleaser, you’re a butt-kisser. If you’re a people-pleaser, you’re a butt-kisser.  There’s no other word for it."

(Suzanne Hinn at the World Outreach Center, July 1997.   "Many Faces Of Benny Hinn DVD")


ROD PARSLEY

"Don't you pray, "If its thy will" perfect faith cannot exist  

where the will of God is not known."

(Rod Parsley, Audio-clip from the Bible Answer-Man show, July 24, 2003)

"Where there is doubt concerning the will of God, faith very simply cannot exist. I use to pray these words, 'If it be thy will for healing,' before I read and believed God's word.  Since I was a good christian boy,  I would get on my knee's like many of you and I'd pray, 'Oh God!'  I thought for many years that God's first name was oh.  'Oh God, if it's your will heal this person.'  Do you know what my doubt filled prayers produced?  Seven members of my immediate family died  within 18 months.'  I practically grew up in a funeral home listening to preacher after preacher explain how it was God's will that another flower was picked for the bouquet in heaven...Let's settle the matter once and for all, God doesn't want you sick."

(Rod Parsley, "Healing is the Children's Bread,"  TBN June 11, 2004)

"November 22, 2003 God appeared to me in a dream.  He came in the

presence of my former pastor--the late great Dr. Lester Sumrall...

My pastor told me in that dream, 'This revival will come with  

manifestations of the gifts of the Spirit.  The gifts of healing, which

will gain the attention of the masses.'"

(Rod Parsley, Benny Hinn Telethon, LeSea Network, April 16, 2004)

Parsley is upfront with his congregation about the church's need for money.  'I just love to talk about money,' he told them.  'I just love to talk about your money.  Let me be very clear — I want your money.  I deserve it.  This church deserves it.'

(Rod Parsley, "An Empire of Souls," page 35.  "ROD PARSLEY: THE RAGING PROPHET")

KENNETH COPELAND

"It's not enough for us to just lie back and say, 'We'll, if it's God's  

will for me to have victory I guess He'll just give it to me.  If it's His will for me to be healed, He'll just heal me.'  No!  It is His will.  He did give it to you.  By His stripes you were Healed."

(Ken Copeland, "Does Your Heart Agree With Heaven?"  Believers Voice of Victory Magazine, November, 2004, page 26)

"Some people say, "Well, Jesus' ministry was poor and He got along just fine."  That's ridiculous.  It would have been impossible for Jesus to be poor! All the way through the Old Testament, God promised material blessings to anyone who would walk perfect and upright before Him.  If God had failed to bless Jesus financially,  He would have been breaking His own Word...Jesus had so much money coming in and going out through His ministry that He had to appoint a treasurer.  That's what Judas was.  There was enough money in that treasury for Judas to steal from it without the money being missed."

(Kenneth Copeland, "The Gospel To The Poor")

"It takes money to preach the gospel.  Jesus Himself knew that,  

and contrary to what some people think, His ministry was not a poor one.   He had so much money coming in and going out through His ministry  that He had to appoint a treasurer.  His name was Judas."

(Kenneth Copeland, "From Faith to Faith A Daily Guide to Victory,"  

(December 5)

I was shocked when I found out who the Biggest Failure in the Bible actually is...The Biggest one in the whole Bible is God...I mean, He lost His top-ranking, most anointed angel; the first man He ever created; the first woman He ever created; the whole earth and all the fullness therein;  a third of the angels, at least - that's a big loss, man....Now, the reason you don't think of God as a failure is He never said He's a failure.  And you're not a failure till you say you're one."

(Ken Copeland, Audio-Clip "Christianity in Crisis,"  Hank Hanegraaff)

"You don't have a god in you, you are one!"

(Hank Hanegraaff, "Christianity in Crisis" page 110. Ken Copeland, "The Force Of Love Audiotape," 1987)

"And I say this with all respect, so that it don't upset you too bad.  

But I say it anyway: When I read in the Bible where He says, 'I Am,' I just smile and say, 'Yes, I Am, too."

(Dr. John MacArthur, "Charismatic Chaos, " page 332.  Ken Copeland, "The Believers Voice of Victory," July 9, 1987)


"When are we all going to wake up and learn God didn't allow the Devil

to get on Job.  Job allowed the Devil to get on Job...Job himself, said he was not upright in the earth.  He said, 'I'm miserable.  My tongue is disobedient."

(Hank Hanegraaff, "Christianity in Crisis " page 533.  Ken Copeland)

Kenneth Copeland: "He’s the most consistent failure...but he’s not to

be biggest in terms of material failure and so forth.  The biggest in the whole Bible is God. ...Wait, wait.  Don’t you turn that set off.  You listen to us. I told you. . . . Now, you sit still a minute. You know me well enough to know I wouldn’t tell something I can’t prove by the Bible.   He lost His top ranking of most anointed angel, the first man He ever created, the first woman He ever created, the whole earth and all the fullness therein, a third of the angels at least.  That’s a big loss, man!

I mean you figure up all of that, that’s a lot of real estate, gone down the drain.  Now, the reason you don’t think of God as a failure, He never said He’s a failure.  And you are not a failure until you say you are one."

(Kenneth Copeland, Audio-clip, "Christianity In Crisis," Hank Hanegraaff)

"Adam committed high treason; and at that point, all the dominion and authority God had given to him was handed over to Satan.  Suddenly, God was on the outside looking in…After Adam’s fall,  God found Himself in a peculiar position...God needed an avenue  back into the earth...God laid out His proposition and Abram accepted it.  It gave God access to the earth and gave man access to God...Technically, if God ever broke the Covenant, He would have to destroy Himself "

 (Hank Hanegraaff, "Christianity in Crisis " page 533.  Kenneth Copeland,  Our Covenant with God," 1987, pp. 8-11)



PAUL CROUCH

HERE IS THE LEADER AND FOUNDER OF TBN BROADCASTING

PAUL CROUCH

LETS SEE WHAT PAUL CROUCH SAYS:

MANY WATCH TBN FOR SPIRITUAL TEACHINGS


"Quit this old cop out prayer, 'if it be thy will' it's bunk!"

(Paul Crouch, Christianity In Crisis, audio-tape, Christian Research Institute.)

PAUL CROUCH ACCUSSED OF HOMOSEXUAL ACTS !

SEE WHAT HIS OWN SON SAYS:

"I am Devastated; I am confronted with having to face the Fact that my Father is a Homosexual."

(Matt Crouch, According to the L. A. Times article, "Televangelist Paul Crouch Attempts to Keep Accuser Quiet,  September 12, 2004)

"Pastor Paul Crouch looked into the camera and told his flock that Trinity Broadcasting Network needed $8 million to spread the Gospel throughout India and save 1 billion souls from damnation.  Crouch, head of the world's largest Christian broadcasting network, said even viewers who couldn't afford a $1,000 pledge should take a "step of faith" and make one anyway.  The Lord would repay them many times over, he said.  'Do you think God would have any trouble getting $1,000 extra to you somehow?'  He asked during a "Praise-a-thon" broadcast from Trinity's studios in Costa Mesa."

(L. A. Times article,"Pastor's Empire Built on Acts of Faith, and Cash,

" September 19, 2004)

 "TBN was not short on cash.  In fact, it could have paid for the India expansion out of the interest on its investment portfolio.   But at TBN, the appeals for money never stop.  Nor does the flow of contributions."

(L. A. Times article,"Pastor's Empire Built on Acts of Faith, and Cash,

 " September 19, 2004)

"But that is just one element in their success.  Another is a doctrine called the 'prosperity gospel,' which promises worshipers that God  will shower them with material blessings if they sacrifice to spread His word.  This theme — that viewers will be rewarded, even enriched, for donating — pervades TBN programming.  'When you give to God,'  Crouch said during a typical appeal for funds, 'you're simply loaning to the Lord and He gives it right on back.'"

(L. A. Times article,"Pastor's Empire Built on Acts of Faith, and Cash,

" September 19, 2004)

"The Crouches and their son Paul Crouch Jr they earned a total of $855,000 last year.  TBN's annual income exceeds $100 million a year, according to the Los Angeles Times.  The ministry provides the Crouches a $10 million, 80-acre, eight-home ranch near Dallas

and two Land Rovers that the Crouches drive.  In 2001, the couple bought a $5 million oceanfront estate in Newport Beach, Calif."

("Popular TV preachers,   St. Louis Post-Dispatch, November 18, 2003)

"Paul, 70, collects a $403,700 salary as TBN's chairman and president.  Jan, 67, is paid $361,000 as vice president and director of programming."

(L. A. Times article,"Pastor's Empire Built on Acts of Faith, and Cash, " September 19, 2004)

"In 1995, an FCC judge ruled that National Minority TV was not minority-controlled but rather was a 'sham' by which Crouch had tried to sidestep the ownership limit.  Crouch appealed to the five-member FCC board.  He also began negotiating with the advocacy

 groups, offering them a monetary settlement to drop their challenge.  Crouch turned to TBN viewers for money.  A five-night telethon elicited $65 million in pledges.  Crouch offered that sum as a settlement, and the advocacy groups agreed to accept it.  In 1999, however, the FCC rejected the settlement and refused to renew National Minority TV's license for the Miami station."

(L. A. Times article,"A Challenge to TBN Growth,  September 20, 2004)

"The Crouches travel the world in a $7.2-million, 19-seat Canadair Turbojet owned by TBN.  They drive luxury cars.  They have charged expensive dinners and furniture to TBN credit cards.  Thirty ministry-owned homes are at their disposal — including a pair of Newport Beach mansions, a mountain retreat near Lake Arrowhead and a ranch in Texas."

(L. A. Times article,"Pastor's Empire Built on Acts of Faith, and Cash,  " September 19, 2004)

"Pastor Paul Crouch calls it 'God's economy of giving,' and here is how it works: People who donate to Crouch's Trinity Broadcasting Network will reap financial blessings from a grateful God.  The more they give TBN, the more He will give them.  Being broke or in debt is no excuse not to write a check. In fact, it's an ideal opportunity.   For God is especially generous to those who give when they can least afford it.  'He'll give you thousands, hundreds of thousands,' Crouch told his viewers during a telethon last November.

 'He'll give millions and billions of dollars.'"

(L. A. Times article,"TBN's Promise: Send Money and See Riches, " September 20, 2004)

"TBN viewers are told that if they don't reap a windfall despite their donations, they must be doing something to 'block God's blessing' — most likely, not giving enough.  Crouch has particularly stern words for those who are not giving at all.  'If you have been healed or saved or blessed through TBN and have not contributed ... you are robbing God and will lose your reward in heaven,' he said during a 1997 telecast."

(L. A. Times article,"TBN's Promise: Send Money and See Riches, " September 20, 2004)

"The Crouches also are frequently seized on camera by the gift of speaking in tongues, a phenomenon Pentecostals believe is a physical manifestation of God, a garble of sounds only he can interpret.  On the spring Praise-A-Thon tells of a recent nighttime episode:

'I waked up and heard someone speaking in tongues — and it was me!" she says.  God's message: "Jan, the TBN Praise-A-Thon isn't for TBN at all. It's for all my people.  It is their telethon.  They are going to have every need met.'

Suddenly, she jerks forward at the waist.  "Eloto-moko krecherya undala lala,"  she says, speaking in tongues.  Recovered, she relays God's message: "Your wallet is going to be healed in Jesus' name."

(Trinity Broadcasting Network Television has built TBN into a power.  The Orange County Register (USA), May 31, 1998, By Carol McGraw and Kim Christensen)

Is God The Biggest Failure?

Kenneth Copeland: "I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is."

Paul Crouch: "Okay."

NOTE:  THESE TWO MEN OF THE CLOTH AGREE THAT GOD WAS THE BIGGEST FAILURE

Kenneth Copeland: "You know everybody you ask, you say,   

‘Who’s the biggest failure?’  They say, ‘Judas.  Somebody else will say, ‘No, I believe it was Adam.’  Well, how about the devil?"

Kenneth Copeland: "He’s the most consistent failure . . . but he’s not

the biggest in terms of material failure and so forth.

The biggest in the whole Bible is God. . . . Wait, wait.  Don’t you turn that set off.  You listen to us. I told you. . . . Now, you sit still a minute. You know me well enough to know I wouldn’t tell something I Can’t prove by the Bible.  He lost His top ranking of most anointed angel, the first man He ever created, the first woman He ever created, the whole earth and all the fullness therein, a third of the angels at least.  That’s a big loss, man!  I mean you figure up all of that, that’s a lot of real estate, gone down the drain.  Now, the reason you don’t think of God as a failure, He never said He’s a failure.  And you are not a failure until you say you are one."

(Kenneth Copeland, Audio-clip, Christianity In Crisis, Hank Hanegraaff)

The Trinity Is Non-Essential According To Paul Crouch

Paul Crouch: Let's talk a little bit about theology now.

These are issues that I consider to be up for debate, discussion, within the broad spectrum of the body of Christ.  You don't have total agreement on, for example, the Trinity. There is a group, the Jesus Only group, or the Oneness group that believes that there's only one Person - anyway, we won't get into that deeply into the doctrinal aspect, but you have been attacked on some statements that you have made concerning the Trinity and the members of the Godhead. How many are there in the Godhead?

Benny Hinn: Three.

Crouch: Three.

Hinn: Simply three.

Crouch: Not nine.

Hinn: Goodness.

Crouch: Where did that silly charge come from?

Hinn: It almost became comical.  Paul, here's what I believe.

God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost.  Three separate Individuals, one in essence, one in work, and each

one of them possesses His own spirit body. That's what I believe

if you don't like it.

(Paul Crouch and Benny Hinn, Audio-Clip "Christianity in Crisis," Hank Hanegraaff)

 
LARRY HUCH

"We're going to Throw that Spirit of Poverty, that religious spirit, that northwest spirit, we're going to break that thing right now!  And

prepare ourselves, the next several weeks to grow. I'm going to kill every religious lie!  Well, Jesus was poor.

Jesus Was Not Poor!  I wanna be like Jesus, Jesus was poor.  Well, you better get rich then!  My God was rich!"

(Larry Huch, "Breaking The Curse of Poverty," part 2, TBN July 16, 2004)
 

ORAL ROBERTS

"Jesus was not poor.  He had a house.  He had a treasury.  He had a team.  He had a partner family.  He had nice clothes, and He was put in a rich man's trust fund."

(Oral Roberts, "How I Learned Jesus Was Not Poor," page 28)

"Fifth, Jesus wore good clothes.  Today we talk about 'Designer clothes,' that is, uniquely made and different from the ordinary.  But Jesus' clothes were even better than that."
(Oral Roberts, "How I Learned Jesus Was Not Poor, page 28")

KENNETH HAGIN

"Because we didn't understand what Jesus said, and because we've been religiously brainwashed instead of New Testament taught.  We watered down the promises of God, and tacked on what Jesus didn't say.  And added on something else to it.  Well, he will be alright, 'if it's His will'  But it might not be His will, people have said.  And yet you

don't find that kind of talk in the New Testament."

(Ken Hagin, "How Jesus Obtained His Name," Tape 44H01.  From the "The Name Of Jesus Series")

"It is unscriptural to pray, 'If it is the will of God.'  When you put an 'if' in your prayer, you are praying in doubt."

(Ken Hagin, Exceedingly growing faith page 10.  Dr. John MacArthur,  "Charismatic

Chaos," page 349)

"They teach that it is only appropriate to pray "Lord, Thy will be done," because we can never know the will of God.  Therefore, to pray for anything specific may be praying against the will of god.  For example, these people teach that you may be praying for God to meet a financial

need in your life, while God may want you to be poor.  So they believe God may want to teach you something by allowing you to suffer with lack and poverty.  Therefore, they say that if you pray for God to meet your financial needs, you could be praying against the will of God.  According to this teaching, you can never pray about anything specific with any confidence.  You can only pray, "Lord, Your will be done."  And you can never know

what God's will is because "God moves in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform."  But one problem with this teaching is that people assume that whatever the outcome, it must be God's will!...Faith begins where the will of God is known, and if you know what His

 Word promises, then you know you can receive your specific petition.  This is what the Bible teaches!"

(Ken Hagin Jr., "What Faith is Not," Article C-Faith)

HANK HANEGRAAFF-- IS NOT PART OF TBN

HE WRITES MANY BOOKS ABOUT THE HERESIES THESE PREACHERS PROCLAIM BUT HANK HANEGRAAFF HIMSELF PREACHES FALSE DOCTRINE WITH BIG WORDS AND CONSTANTLY BEGS FOR MONEY

Hank Hanegraaff  THE Bible Answer MAN

CHRISTIAN RESEARCH  INSTITUTE                 

HERESIES OF HENDRICK HANEGRAAFF

The following are some of the false doctrines/heresies that Hendrick Hanegraaff of Christian Research Institute (CRI) teaches and a clear refutation of them using Scripture:

 HANK SAYS-- The HOLY SPIRIT does not dwell within the bodies of all believers. The "indwelling" is symbolic of a relationship believers have with the Father, Son and HOLY SPIRIT.

HANK SAYS -- Hell and the Lake of Fire are not real places.  The descriptions of Hell and the Lake of Fire are merely symbolic of a  harsher punishment that the wicked will suffer.

HANK SAYS -- The blasphemy of the HOLY SPIRIT is not a specific act, but a continual rejection of JESUS as Savior.

HANK SAYS-- The Roman Catholic Corporation is a true Messianic Faith "church" that has some false doctrines.

DOV -- The Roman Catholic Corp. is the largest and most corrupt false religion in the world.  It is incredible that a so-called "Protestant" could say it is a true church with a few wrong doctrines.

HANK SAYS -- Fallen angels have no extension in space (they cannot appear to people).

HANK  argues that angels cannot create a physical body so when holy angels appear to people JESUS must create a body and then destroy it after the appearance. This is his personal opinion which is not supported by Scripture. There is NO passage that says this. It is pure speculation on his part and by making that claim he is adding to Scripture (Rev. 22.18).

It is a serious violation of the hermenuetical principle of accepting what JESUS Elohim say at face value. When Scripture says an angel appears to someone and looks like a man we must accept that angels have physical bodies.

HANK fails to understand that angels are not ethereal beings who have no bodies. Angels are physical beings who have immortal, physical bodies similar to the ones that we will have at the resurrection. They dwell in a different dimension than we do and they have the ability to move from their dimension into ours at will. When they enter our dimension we can see, touch and hear them. We cannot see, hear or touch them while they are in their dimension unless we are given the ability to as Elisha and his servant were (2 Kings 6.17).

HANK SAYS -- Women can teach and exercise authority over men in a local assembly (church) as long as it is not "ultimate" authority. He states that they can be assistant bishops (pastors). He argues that the command  for women to cover their heads while praying and prophesying (I Cor. 11.5) modifies the commands for women to remain silent during Bible studies (I Cor. 14.34,35) and to not teach or exercise authority over men (I Tim. 2.12). He says they can speak in Bible studies, and teach and exercise authority over men under the supervision of the senior bishop. He also argues that since Myriam was a song leader, Hana was a prophetess, Deborah led Israel, women found the empty tomb of JESUS and the daughters of Philip were prophetesses that they can speak in Bible studies, teach men and exercise authority over men.

JESSE DUPLANTIS

The Bible makes it clear that the blessings of God are a result of choice, not chance.  Yet, a lot of people don't preach this very basic truth anymore.  Why?  They're scared of Christian terrorists who'll fly into them with accusations.  There is persecution that comes when you Preach Prosperity, but the Lord told me, 'Jesse, don't you back off that message because it takes Money to get the Gospel to the World.' 'But Jesus was Poor!'  Someone argued.  You are living in a dream world if you believe that.  Have you ever been to a casino?  Have you ever seen a gambler say, 'I'm putting all my money on those torn up, old clothes?'  They don't gamble for rags.  Yet, the Bible says that the Roman soldiers gambled for Jesus clothes.  They must have looked pretty
good.  He also had a full time staff of 12 and a part time staff of 70."
(Jesse Duplantis, "Prosperity is not About Possessions, It's About Priorities,"  VOCM Feb. 2004)

"Jesus rode what I like to call a Continental Donkey.  One of them Cadillac Donkey's that had never been rode. You might want a car that has never been drove.  You ever think about that?"
(Jesse Duplantis, Daystar Fall, "Share-A-Thon," September 15, 2004)

 DR.
C. THOMAS ANDERSON

They cared about all levels.  So, the church ought to try and like maybe reach all People instead of just Poor People who keeps the Church Poor, the Pastor Poor, and Everybody Poor."
(Dr.
C.Thomas Anderson, "Praise the Lord," TBN, August 21, 2004)

"But it tells us he was rich, so it's talking about money her [Luke 19:1-10].  And he sought to see Jesus and when he was in the top of the tree in verse 5, it says, 'Zacchaeus make haste.  Come on down, today I'm going to stay at your house. Cause you got bucks and a place for me to stay.  You're gonna feed me good.'  They called Jesus a winebibber and a glutton because He ate well.  Come on now!  I'm trying to get you to think a little bit just past your religion.  Stretch, just a little
bit."
(Dr.
C.Thomas Anderson, "Praise the Lord," TBN, August 21, 2004)

JOHN HAGEE

 "Jesus was not poor...Jesus had a nice house!  John 1:38 says that Jesus turned to those that were following him and said, 'Come with me.'   And they said, 'Where dwells thou?'  He said, 'Come and see.'  And Jesus took that whole crowd home with Him to stay in His house.  That
meant it was a big house!  Jesus wore fine clothes!  John 19:23 says, 'He had a seamless robe.'  Roman soldiers gambled for it at the foot of the cross. It was a designer original!  It was valuable enough for them to want it...And then there are Christians that have a poverty complex that says, 'Well, I feel guilty about having nice things.'  Jesus didn't!"
(John Hagee, Praise-A-Thon, Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN), November 5, 2004)

BRIAN ZAHND

"Can I tell you that Poverty doesn’t bless the Poor?  It doesn’t bless the poor.  It doesn’t make them more spiritual.  It doesn’t make the poor closer to God.  All poverty does is

destroy the poor...Throughout the Word of God, Poverty is revealed as a Curse.  And what we’re doing is we are renewing our mind according to what the Word of God – not religion or some preacher – has to say about poverty and prosperity."

(Brian Zahnd, "Prosper, Succeed and Achieve: The Curse of Poverty,

" Saturday, February 07, 2004)


Note: "Whoso mocketh the poor reproacheth his Maker,"

Proverbs 17:5.

"Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? But ye have despised the poor," James 2:5-6.


WHY DO SO MANY SO CALLED HOLY GHOST FILLED MINISTERS AND DECEVED WOMEN MINISTERS CLAIM THEY HAVE THE REVEALATION OF CHRIST WHEN THEY ALL ARE FROM DIFFERENT FAITHS AND DENOMINATIONS DIVIDED

MANY CLAIM THE SAME GOD TOLD THEM TELL THE WORSHPPERS THEY MUST SEND MONEY TO RECEIVE A MIRACLE FROM GOD

ACCORDING TO GOD'S WORD SCRIPTURE INTERPRETS SCRIPTURE

I  AM NOT JUDGING YOU CONCERNING YOUR LOVE FOR CHRIST

ONLY GOD KNOWS YOUR HEART

BUT ***** I  AM  JUDGING A TREE BY THE FRUITS IT BEARS*********WE SHOULD LIVE BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD

THE WORD***** THE BIBLE***** THE SCRIPTURES                                                                                                                     

MOST THINGS YOUR LEADERS PRACTICE  

HOW  MANY GREAT MEN HAVE BEEN DECEIVED?   DAVID-- SOLOMON- SAMSON--(RANDY WHITE ,BENNY HINN, PAUL CROUCH, CREFLO DOLLAR   TD JAKES -AND SO ON

DO I TELL THE TRUTH ?   OR --ARE THEY GREATER THAN DAVID-  

SOLOMON,AND SAMSON- AND YOU CANNOT BE DECEIVED ????

YOU MIGHT  NOT THINK YOU COULD  BE  DECEIVED BECAUSE OF YOUR PRIDE!!!!!!!

REMEMBER THE DEVIL WAS IN THE BEGINNING AND IS THE FATHER OF LIES!!!!!

THANK YOU  ALVIN HALL ---E-MAIL-- GODTHEWORD@AOL.COM

PUBLISH IF YOU WILL – I ENCOURAGE IT -- SHOW ALL I STAND ON A SOLID ROCK -THE WORD OF GOD - MAY GODS LOVE SHINE IN YOUR HEARTS                       

                    PEACE                                                               

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SCRIPTURE
All scripture based on the King James Authorized Version or 1611 Bible, New Testament only, otherwise known as THE WORD.  All Old Testament scriptural references used in this article is Jewish History, not canonical, and is used as additional references.